Thread: 10's vs 25's
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Old June 25, 2009, 12:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
fizboz

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10's vs 25's

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Originally Posted by SINisterW View Post
Oh yeah and on wow.com it talks about the 3 quality levels Tier 9 to come in three quality levels
The out of context quote is from SINisterW on the thread on T9 and how the new gear is divided into three levels, with gear for 10's once again inferior to 25's (at least heroic 25's)

It's irritating that they're continuing to make 25's the benchmark of higher level gear. Was hoping that this new raid would get rid of that distinction.

I moved from a larger guild running 25 mans (where I spent most of my time on 'standby') to a small guild running 10 mans (where I'm active every run). I've pugged a ton of both 10's & 25's.

From what I've seen, 25 is generally easier than 10's (Ulduar is harder, but there's no reason it needs to be, it's just scaled that way) since there's more room for error and more buffs/skills that are available. 10's also tend to be more fun (for me anyway) since it's 10 people talking and contributing rather than 5 talking and 20 staying silent in bigger raids (whether or not that's the case in most 25's, I don't know, although it's human nature to open up more in smaller groups).

I would much prefer if 10's were just scaled to be hard for groups of 10, 25 to be hard for groups of 25 and the loot equal. This gives all raiders a crack at getting their gear in either format.

I can see how this would make the 25 man raids less attractive, but they would still be run (after all, it's another chance you get your drop) and it wouldn't make 10's irrelevant after you've geared up (my warrior alt is in the limbo where 10's no longer give me anything useful, pugging 25's is an annoying and unreliable option, and most decent guilds running 25's already have their MT/OT's).

Why should 25's be the benchmark for the best gear?
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