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Hardcore or Elitist?

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Posted September 29, 2008 at 06:42 PM by Warpy
Updated November 16, 2008 at 02:38 PM by Warpy
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Are some raiders “better” than others? I suppose so: some raid teams can't defeat Moroes (as of patch 2.4!) while others are farming Sunwell. Does it matter? Well, it does if you want to kill raid bosses and explore instances. Doesn't matter which bosses, you can be a hardcore raider at any level. A hardcore raider works to become that better raider. An elitist, on the other hand, looks for other people to blame.

A hardcore raider figures out what contributes of raid performance and works on improving it, for him/herself, or as a leader, for the whole team, by setting objective, measurable standards and holding to them consistently. An elitist identifies “inferior” raiders and tries to keep them off the team, often using subjective standards and doing so inconsistently. Some elitists end up not raiding, perhaps because they haven't worked to improve their own raiding abilities or because they're such rotten company no one wants to raid or guild with them.

I think it takes multiple raids in different instances to learn about a given raider (including oneself). I've grown very skeptical of the meters, because DPS/HPS min-maxers can be very bad raiders. Things I consider important to raiding performance would be:
  • Skill: Hard to measure objectively, but you get a feel for it over time. I'm convinced this grows with time, effort, and experience.
  • Gear: Yes skill>>gear for large differences in skill and relatively small differences in gear. Since gear is affected by raiding experience, commitment to improvement, and knowledge of one's class, it's rare to see good gear in the hands of unskilled players... unless a toon is fresh from E-Bay, or belongs to someone's friend.
  • Luck: This would be why it takes a while, in my opinion, to get a good estimate of a player's ability.
  • Computer Performance: Frames-per-second and latency are some of the biggest variables within a raid team and have a huge effect on a player's performance in turn. Can be hard to distinguish from skill.
  • Attitude: particularly confidence and commitment. Anyone know someone who talks on the phone while raiding? Someone who raids to be with her husband/boyfriend who ignores her otherwise?
None of these are likely to be independent of one another, but they give a hardcore raider lots of ways to improve.

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  1. Old Comment
    You manage to do this in so many less words then I do! What are some of the ways you think you've improved?

    (I feel so dirty and outnumbered commenting here..)
    Posted October 02, 2008 at 03:39 AM by Jive Jive is offline
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    The big thing I've had to learn in T6 instances is how to survive. I now keep Drain Life hotkeyed. Mostly, I just have to buy time for a healer to get to me (I can heal myself, but slowly).

    I managed to gain about 150-200 DPS by replacing or shutting down my most memory-intensive add-ons.

    We will be a good influence on you, Jive!
    Posted October 02, 2008 at 02:38 PM by Warpy Warpy is offline
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    Pretty random definition of elitist. Could just as well have been 'a player who has a low tollerance for others standing in the fire.'
    Posted October 04, 2008 at 02:47 AM by JohnnyRotten JohnnyRotten is offline
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    Most people who raid regularly are going to have a low tolerance for people who stand in the fire. I speak from painful experience! Hating pointless raid attempts doesn't make people elitist. I think it's the reaction to people who stand in the fire that defines whether one is elitist. Some reactions are more reasonable and constructive than others.
    Posted October 04, 2008 at 09:57 AM by Warpy Warpy is offline
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    How many times do you have to tell idiots to not stand in the fire before /gkick becomes a reasonable response?
    Posted October 07, 2008 at 10:00 AM by Anij Anij is offline
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