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			<title>Yet another destro spec?</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:28:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Thanks to a comment by Emarisea, in fizboz new destro lock guide...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Thanks to a comment by Emarisea, in fizboz new <a href="!36906!http://wowmb.net/forums/f9/36906-burn_baby_burn_raiding_guide_aspiring_destruction_warlocks/" target="_blank">destro lock guide</a> , I came to consider the following spec:<br />
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<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=18052085#talents" target="_blank">Profiler - Wowhead</a><br />
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basically the idea was to get rid from soul leech but not putting the talent points in suppression. The only option left that would directly increase dps was to put all five points in the demonology tree in order to get three points in Unholy Power (= 12% increased Imp's fire bolt damage). I found it interesting since it gives you the possibility to replace ISL by directly dps increasing talents. <br />
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Here is what simcraft says, comparing this build with the normal ISL build, using best in slot T9 gear: <br />
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<img src="http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=450x90&amp;cht=bhg&amp;chbh=15&amp;chd=t:10153|10123|9258&amp;chds=0,25384&amp;chco=9482C9,9482C9,9482C9&amp;chm=t++10153++warlockt9001853,9482C9,0,0,15|t++10123++Warlockt9001358,9482C9,1,0,15|t++9258++Warlockt9005615,9482C9,2,0,15&amp;chtt=DPS+Ranking&amp;chts=000000,20" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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win! The demo lock is just there to provide the spellpower buff. <br />
Note that if you use more average gear (in particular my gear which is mainly ilvl 245 with 4pc T9) the ranking is different. In my case the &quot;normal&quot; build is 50 dps better. The Unholy Power build gets better as you reduce the fight length. Here's the same result as above, using a 200 second fight instead of 300 seconds:<br />
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<img src="http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=450x90&amp;cht=bhg&amp;chbh=15&amp;chd=t:10363|10270|9523&amp;chds=0,25906&amp;chco=9482C9,9482C9,9482C9&amp;chm=t++10363++warlockt9001853,9482C9,0,0,15|t++10270++Warlockt9001358,9482C9,1,0,15|t++9523++Warlockt9005615,9482C9,2,0,15&amp;chtt=DPS+Ranking&amp;chts=000000,20" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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We can also redo it using 3.3 mechanics, now again for a 300 seconds default fight: <br />
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<img src="http://chart.apis.google.com/chart?chs=450x90&amp;cht=bhg&amp;chbh=15&amp;chd=t:10281|10229|9721&amp;chds=0,25703&amp;chco=9482C9,9482C9,9482C9&amp;chm=t++10281++warlockt9001853,9482C9,0,0,15|t++10229++Warlockt9001358,9482C9,1,0,15|t++9721++Warlockt9005615,9482C9,2,0,15&amp;chtt=DPS+Ranking&amp;chts=000000,20" border="0" alt="" /><br />
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Bottom line: No need to respec right now, but it's nice to see that there's an alternative to the default builds that neither have suppression nor ISL. I think the breaking point is when about half your gear is ilvl 258... anyways it seems to be something to keep in mind once you start getting stuff from ICC. <br />
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All simulations done using simulationcraft 322.7 on a mac, using the BiS profiles available from them plus the wowhead profile I linked above.</div>

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			<title>Burn, Baby Burn : A Raiding Guide for Aspiring Destruction Warlocks</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:27:52 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Originally submitted as a guide, but since it's been languishing in the submissions file for a while, I've decided to post it here for some fresh...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Originally submitted as a guide, but since it's been languishing in the submissions file for a while, I've decided to post it here for some fresh air.  Looking forward to any helpful comments/suggestions &amp; corrections.<br />
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This guide has been put together for the Warlock who&#8217;s just hit 80 and is looking for a simple, no-frills guide to raiding Destruction. </font></font></b><br />
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">It&#8217;s not a guide for your level 10 Blood Elf, nor is it intended to discuss the finer aspects of theorycrafting or min/maxing. If you&#8217;re already sporting full </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=-176" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Triumphant Gul'dan's Regalia</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, you&#8217;re unlikely to find anything here that you don&#8217;t know, but if the prospect of rolling on </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37884" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Azure Cloth Bindings</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> makes you cackle in wicked glee, then you&#8217;re in the right place. Everything in this guide is, if not exactly correct, at least not broadly wrong. Follow it till you feel comfortable enough to toss it aside and mentor other up-and-coming Warlocks.</font></font><br />
 <br />
<br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>What is a Destruction Warlock?</b></font></font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>A Destruction (aka Destro) Warlock is a Warlock who has chosen his talents primarily from the Destruction talent tree.  </i>Typically Destruction Warlocks have at least 51 points in this tree, taking points all the way down to </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=50796" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Chaos Bolt</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">. We will talk about different Destruction &#8216;builds&#8217; (arrangements of talent points) later. This guide will not concern itself with hybrid builds (arrangements of talent points that take fewer than 51 points in the Destruction tree).</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Destruction Warlocks are like Fire Mages, except whereas Mages played with matches when they were kids, Destruction Warlocks played with fire-spewing demons. That is to say, a Destro Warlock&#8217;s damaging spells are primarily<i> fire based</i> (primarily, but not all&#8230;)</font></font><br />
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<br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>Why raid as a Destruction Warlock?</b></font></font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">You&#8217;re a Warlock and you like to destroy&#8230; live the dream. OK&#8230; so you like to curse, drain and command demonic minions as well&#8230; so what&#8217;s different about Destruction? Why become a Destruction Warlock instead of, say, an Affliction Warlock?</font></font><br />
 <ul><li><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Destruction Warlocks are currently (as of 3.2) &#8216;top of the damage meters&#8217; (in the theoretical simulations known as &#8216;simcrafting&#8217;). The popularity of the build is testament to the fact that <i>it does very well in a raid environment</i>.</font></font></li>
</ul>  <ul><li><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Destruction Warlocks are <i>very good at &#8216;burst&#8217; damage.</i> That is, we have they have the ability to deal large amounts of damage quickly (though not as quick as some other classes). In contrast, Affliction reaches it&#8217;s damage dealing peak much more slowly and Demonology builds typically aren&#8217;t able to reach the same damage dealing heights.</font></font></li>
</ul>    <ul><li><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">As you gear up and become more powerful, you&#8217;ll find that <i>Destruction scales nicely</i>. You&#8217;ll do just as well in heroic instances and older raid content as you will in ToGC, since you&#8217;ll deal significant damage even when instance bosses are dying before they can get off a &#8216;how dare you challenge me, puny Warlock&#8217; emote.</font></font></li>
</ul>  <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">As a trade-off, Destruction does not bring the same level of benefit (other than the pain you cause the boss) to your raid as Demonology, nor does it have the mana-efficiency or survivability of Affliction.</font></font><br />
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<br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>What types of Destruction Warlock are there?</b></font></font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">There are good ones and bad ones (well&#8230; evil ones and &#8216;more&#8217; evil ones), but the vast majority of them will fall into one of two builds: 3/13/55 or 0/13/58 (read: number of talent points in Affliction/Demonology/Destruction). In fact, these builds are actually very similar and are not significantly different in how you play them, they just confer different benefits.</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IcZcu0h0hZVbGVrcuVoAcst" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">3/13/55</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">:   The key to this build are the three points in </font></font><i><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18176" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Suppression</font></font></a></u></font></i><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> that reduce the +hit you need to get from gear to reach the hit cap (more on this later). It&#8217;s a great choice for Destruction Warlocks who are just starting to raid since it&#8217;s unlikely you&#8217;ll have the gear you need to be &#8216;capped&#8217; for&#8230;</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZcu0h0hZVbGVdcuVsAfct" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">0/13/58</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">:  This is typically a build chosen for higher end raiding.  It sacrifices the three points in </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=18176" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Suppression</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> in exchange for </font></font><i><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54118" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Improved Soul Leech</font></font></a></u></font></i><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">. This makes sense since at higher levels of raiding, you will have more access to gear with sufficient +hit and can use that flexibility to improve mana-efficiency (and thereby the damage you can do between </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=1454" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">) for you and your raid.</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">When you&#8217;re starting out, stick with one of these builds and you&#8217;ll do fine.</font></font><br />
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<br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>OK, got my spec, now what about Glyphs?</b></font></font></font><br />
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<font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">There are only four major glyphs you should be interested in as a Destruction Warlock: </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42454" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Conflagrate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42453" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Incinerate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42464" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Immolate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, and </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">. A lot of smart people with expensive and sophisticated calculators have gone through the trouble of trashing glyphs like the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42465" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Imp</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> or the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45781" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Chaos Bolt</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, so listen to them and stick with the four above.</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Of the four, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42454" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Conflagrate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42453" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Incinerate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> are bread and butter... get them.   The choice of </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42464" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Immolate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> or </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> for that last slot really depends on how far you&#8217;ve got along in gearing.    Until you get enough Spirit to make </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> pay off, stick with </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=42464" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Immolate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">.   Roughly, if you&#8217;re ready to take on the Titans of Ulduar, you&#8217;re probably ready for the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">.</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Luckily your choice of minor glyphs comes down to a decision whether or not you feel the urgent need to swim like Michael Phelps or set your </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=126" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Eye of Kilrogg</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> free to fly with the birds of the sky.   In other words, Warlocks are too powerful to need </font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>minor</i></font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> glyphs&#8230; besides, they all suck.</font></font><br />
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<br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>Gearing your Destruction Warlock: pret</b></font><font size="2"><b>-à-</b></font><font size="2"><b>porter for pyromaniacs</b></font></font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">You&#8217;ll never go wrong with basic black, unfortunately </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=-177" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Triumphant Kel'Thuzad's Regalia</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> only comes in a garish blue/green combo&#8230; </font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Très chic it assuredly is not.   But it does have some nice accessories like<i> hit, spell power, haste, crit and spirit</i>.</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">If you&#8217;ve raided as an Affliction or Demonology Warlock before, you&#8217;ll be pleased to know that although the degrees of importance are different, the actual stat priorities aren&#8217;t. If you&#8217;re just gearing out your Warlock, you&#8217;re going to want to focus on a few things in this order:</font></font><br />
 <ul><li><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit" target="_blank">Hit Rating</a> (Hit): This is the <i>#1 stat</i> you need to be concerned about when you start raiding. Hit, basically, is your chance not to miss. If you are low on hit, your &quot;would-have-been-if-only&quot; 15k </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=50796" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Chaos Bolt</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> will sail harmlessly over the bosses level 83 head (or heads depending on who you&#8217;re fighting). In order to avoid the shame of this happening, you need to reach the &#8216;Hit Cap&#8217;.</font></font></li>
</ul><blockquote><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>The &#8216;Hit Cap&#8217; is the amount of Hit you need to achieve a 0% miss chance.</i> This will change depending on certain factors (ask your buddy the Draenei Shadow Priest why he gets invited to all the raids), but when it comes to the basics, there are really only two numbers you need to be concerned with: 368 and 446.</font></font><br />
</blockquote><blockquote><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">If you are running with the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IcZcu0h0hZVbGVrcuVoAcst" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">3/13/55</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> build above, then you need to bring your Hit Rating to <i>368</i> in order not to miss.   If you have chosen to run with </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZcu0h0hZVbGVdcuVsAfct" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">0/13/58</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, then you&#8217;re going to need <i>446</i>.   That&#8217;s why </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IcZcu0h0hZVbGVrcuVoAcst" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">3/13/55</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> is more popular for beginning Destruction Warlocks. Getting that extra 78 Hit rating is the reason many young Warlocks die a little inside when they think of the number of times they had to kill </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=31134" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Cyanigosa</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> before </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=37873" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Mark of the War Prisoner</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> finally dropped.</font></font><br />
</blockquote><blockquote><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">There are different things you can take (your Draenei buddy is one&#8230;) to bring the required hit rating down, but those are beyond the scope of our modest little guide. The </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="!30669!http://wowmb.net/forums/f104/30669-whats_hit_cap_mr_wolf/" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Den</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> or </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_hit" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">WoWWiki</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> will help you on your way.</font></font><br />
</blockquote><blockquote><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Once you reach the Hit Cap, stop&#8230; a -1% chance to miss hits as often as a 0% chance to miss.</font></font><br />
</blockquote><ul><li><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_power" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Spell Power</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> (SP): is the next stat you need to be concerned about. Once you reach the Hit Cap, Spell Power is the thing you want most of. In fact, the more of it the better. Now here&#8217;s the irony: although Spell Power is the king of stats&#8230; you don&#8217;t need to worry too much about it. Spell Power is sooooo cool, and Blizzard was sooooo generous that they put it on all the cloth pieces you&#8217;re likely to pick up.</font></font></li>
</ul><blockquote><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">In other words, increase in Spell Power is a natural consequence of building up your gear. Higher level gear is more likely to have more Spell Power, so for the most part you&#8217;re not going to have to think too much about it. Of course, things get more complicated by the time we get to...</font></font><br />
</blockquote><ul><li><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_haste" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Haste</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_critical_strike" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Critical Strike</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> (Crit): After reaching hit cap, the choice between Haste or Crit is likely to lead to more head scratching than the time the Society for the Advancement of Brain Teasers got head lice. Actually, the choice is fairly simple: point for point, Haste is a better stat than Crit. If you have to choose between a cloak with 50 Haste or a cloak with 50 Crit, you&#8217;re more often than not better off choosing the Haste cloak. The difficulty comes when the first cloak also has 50 Spell Power and the second has 75&#8230;</font></font></li>
</ul><blockquote><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">There is no simple, straightforward answer that&#8217;s true 100% of the time, but as a rule of thumb, </font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>unless the combination of Spell Power and Critical Strike on any one piece of gear is significantly more than the combination of Spell Power and Haste on a piece you&#8217;re thinking of replacing, keep the Haste gear.</i></font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">   If you&#8217;re really determined to get into the math of it, search the Den for discussions on Haste vs Crit, or pop over to the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://elitistjerks.com/f80/" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Elitist Jerks</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> Warlock page and lose yourself in the complex calculus of theorycrafting.</font></font><br />
</blockquote><ul><li><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Spirit" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Spirit</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">:  There used to be a time when Spirit was for sissy priests, but no longer.   Thanks to the magic of </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47893" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Fel Armor</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, your wimpy Spirit gets converted into mighty boss-burning Spell Power.   Not only that, but good old </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57946" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and by extension the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> also benefit. Unfortunately the translation of Spirit into Spell Power isn&#8217;t as straightforward as the beguiling tooltip would lead you to believe, but when gearing up and running your first raids, you could do worse than</font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i> assume that about 50% of your Spirit will convert to Spell Power</i></font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">. Although in almost every specific instance wrong, if you stick to this rule when you first start gearing up, you&#8217;ll be close to the truth more often than not.</font></font></li>
</ul>  <ul><li><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Formulas:Mana_Regen" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">MP5</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> &amp; </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Intellect#Intellect" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Intellect</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">: You&#8217;re not a Priest or a Shammy. You&#8217;re far more kick-ass than any of these hybrid wanna-be&#8217;s, leave them with their MP5 &amp; Intellect. The only time you should be rolling on gear with MP5 (pretty much all caster cloth comes with Intellect, but who cares?) is when the other stats on the piece are a upgrade over what you&#8217;re wearing. Or you could roll on it just so you can disenchant it into a lovely little </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34057" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Abyss Crystal</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, while your healers look on in horror (hey&#8230; we&#8217;re </font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>supposed</i></font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> to be evil&#8230;)</font></font></li>
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Spell Priority: Destroying things efficiently</b></font></font></font><br />
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There is no cow level.  There is no &#8220;Destro Rotation&#8221;.  There is, however, an &#8216;opener&#8217; and a set of priorities.</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Spells you need to have on your action bar (or keybound if you&#8217;re really elite): </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47810" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Immolate</font></font></a></u></font>, <font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=17962" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Conflagrate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">,  </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59172" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Chaos Bolt</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47838" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Incinerate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57946" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47865" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Curse of the Elements</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47867" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Curse of Doom</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and the one spell that you&#8217;ll find yourself getting better acquainted with as you gear up : </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=29858" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Soulshatter</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">.</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Let&#8217;s start with how you introduce yourself to a boss (and here I mean the poison-cloud-dropping, add-spawning, polarity-shifting kind, not the kind you send your CV to): If you have the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, then use it and give yourself a little SP buff before you start laying on some serious beat-down. If you&#8217;re the only Warlock (or if there&#8217;s no Moonkin or Unholy DK in your raid), the first thing you cast on the boss should be </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47865" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Curse of the Elements</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">. If you&#8217;ve got either of those or if the other Warlock is weaker than you (but of course he is&#8230; naturally, he should be casting CoE) then you utter your </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47867" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Curse of Doom</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">.</font></font><br />
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 <font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47810" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Immolate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> is second, since it buffs your other fire spells and allows you to hit the unsuspecting mob with </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=17962" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Conflagrate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, </font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> the next spell in your opener (after you do this, you may find yourself reaching for </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=29858" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Soulshatter</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, because it hits hard and fast).   A little </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59172" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Chaos Bolt</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> is a nice chaser, followed by </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47838" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Incinerate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, Incinerate, Incinerate</font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and more </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47838" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Incinerate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">.</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">From here, you start working with a <i>system of priorities</i>.   </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47838" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Incinerate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> is your &#8216;filler&#8217;, whenever you can&#8217;t cast any other spells or your DoTs are still scorching happily away, you should be casting it. Your first priority are your DoTs : </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47867" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Curse of Doom</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> or </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47865" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Curse of the Elements</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and  </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47810" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Immolate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">. Keep them ticking, but try not to 'clip' them (don't write over the last tick by casting too early). Ideally, you time your DoT refresh so that your new DoT goes up immediately after the old one fades, but it's better to be a little bit late than a little bit early. If your DoTs are busy doing their damage, then just pop </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=17962" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Conflagrate</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> and  </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59172" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Chaos Bolt</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> whenever they come off of cooldown.   </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=57946" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> enough to keep up your buff if you're using the </font></font><font color="#0000ff"><u><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=45785" target="_blank"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Glyph of Life Tap</font></font></a></u></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">, otherwise only do it when you start getting out of mana (or need to move) and only then as often as you need to.</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">The Destuction Warlock's E=MC2:  <i>CoE(D)/Immo &gt; Conflag/CB &gt; Incin</i></font></font><br />
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<br />
  <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>Pet?  It's not a Baby Blizzard Bear, it's a minion...</b></font></font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">You don't take a talent called <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=54278" target="_blank">Empowered Imp</a> if you're going to hang around with your <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=712" target="_blank">Succubus</a> (well, at least not unless you're trying to impress your friends).</font></font><br />
 <br />
 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>The <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=688" target="_blank">Imp</a> is the pet of choice for Destruction Warlocks</i> and many talents in the two Destruction builds are taken in order to turn him into your own personal fireball machine gun. Not only that, but just having him around gives you <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=47982" target="_blank">Blood Pact</a>, a nice little health buff that allows you to tap away a bit more life for mana.   A tip:  turn off <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=4511" target="_blank">Phase Shift</a> so that your imp can benefit from all the raid the buffs being passed around, and remember... whatever he says, it </font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"><i>is</i></font></font><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2"> in his contract... he just never read the fine print.</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font color="DarkOrange"><font size="2"><b>The last word</b></font></font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Hopefully, this guide will help set you off on the path to Destruction (really, where else could the road to  <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=59741" target="_blank">Ruin</a> lead?). There are many more excellent resources out there that can help you as you advance further down that path, including a lot of helpful posts in the Den (even the most evil Warlocks should use the search feature).</font></font><br />
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 <font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><font size="2">Have fun playing your Destruction Warlock (till the next nerf) and burn, baby burn.</font></font></div>

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			<title>Warlock Vs Paladin: The Showdown!</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 14:11:26 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Had a little situation last night that I thought one of you wise and learned Warlocks can help me out on. This is my first WOW character of any note...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Had a little situation last night that I thought one of you wise and learned Warlocks can help me out on. This is my first WOW character of any note and I don't really understand other classes with much detail so hopefully one of you can enlighten me.<br />
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Was doing the daily last night, Paladin was tanking, he wasn't marking at all and with MOD groups of about 4 or 5, made it quite hard. After a couple of crits, they came for me, Soulshatter obviously helps but I can't rely on that for every fight. So I started to use Shadowfury to bide my time, stun them and maybe regroup and give the tank some time to get aggro back. Now at this point the Paladin went ****ing apeshit and started screaming something about him being OOM and stuns being a big mistake from me. So furious was he that the turd got me kicked out of the group. Now I must've been doing something wrong to get the little piss-juggler so livid but I haven't a clue as the last thing he said was 'You should learn was a Paladin is all about' which I intend to do.....when I create a Paladin character. Until then, I was hoping for some more constructive, less hair-brained criticism.<br />
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Can ya help a brother out, I'm at a loss and any mistakes I might have made, I'd rather avoid in the future. <br />
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			<title>Curse of doom on (temporarily) immune bosses</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:36:48 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>hi, 
 
yesterday I ran Nexus hc with a good group, so I decided to use curse of doom (to spawn the doomguard and have some fun).  
 
However, on two...</description>
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yesterday I ran Nexus hc with a good group, so I decided to use curse of doom (to spawn the doomguard and have some fun). <br />
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However, on two of the bosses (Telestra and Anomalus) it didn't seem to do damage, since both of the bosses were (coincidentally) immune to damage after the 60 seconds was up. <br />
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I guess this is normal behaviour and we should not cast CoD on those bosses?</div>

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			<title>Wanting some input</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:36:27 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[The World of Warcraft Armory (http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Terenas&n=Tustaveris) 
  
There is my current armory, you'll notice I'm...]]></description>
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There is my current armory, you'll notice I'm fully hit capped because we don't run with a moonkin/SP having a bad recruitment drought in those areas.<br />
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With that said I'm trying to run some numbers, would it be wise to take the extra hit from supression till then and get some of my spirit gear on and run with lifetap glyph I am not at the moment due to rather low spirit but I'm wanting an opinion.<br />
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Id like to think I'm pretty solid with a couple questionable choices like not having the badge ring, but I could handle a small loss in dps at the moment to build my finances up selling crusader orbs.  I don't have alot of time in wow for anything other than raiding and also my cloak I didn't raid in ulduar but maybe 4 clears before I started ToC content and now I can't get a cloak drop for the life of me...wtb cloak of displacement.</div>

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			<title>maxing dps while having to move around</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 23:35:01 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I am having a problem with keeping dps numbers while in raids where i am moving around alot. I use LT,Imm,conflag,CB, spam incinerate. The thing is...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I am having a problem with keeping dps numbers while in raids where i am moving around alot. I use LT,Imm,conflag,CB, spam incinerate. The thing is that as long as i can stand and cast I can do very high damage and dps but when I am moving alot it seems my Imm spell totally drains my dps since I'm not casting high damage spells. I was wondering if there is a dot or something I'm not using that others find usefull to at least hold constant damage on a target until casting can resume. Thank you. Also, I use CoE on most all raid targets and bosses.</div>

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			<title>Voidwalker shield</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:02:36 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I really suck ass at math. So what would a voidwalkers shield absorb without gear/or talents on a level 80 warlock. 
  
Thank you.</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I really suck ass at math. So what would a voidwalkers shield absorb without gear/or talents on a level 80 warlock.<br />
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Thank you.</div>

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			<title>Warlock Tanking. heroics</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:59:37 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>I have found a viable spec for tanking heroics with my guildies. I use pvp gear to get uncrittable, while maintiaining high HP and spell power. I use...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>I have found a viable spec for tanking heroics with my guildies. I use pvp gear to get uncrittable, while maintiaining high HP and spell power. I use a brewfest stam trinket, i also use indestructible pots. Another thing that is good to have, is a trinket w/ a use for extra spell power or haste. It helps to keep threat, since i was running with people geared from heroic 10 toc - heroic 25 toc. <br />
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The spec you can use is here, Pet used is void walker duh. <br />
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<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#IZ0GchohZVf0VbIuARAcot:zdj" target="_blank">Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft</a><br />
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Rotation for single target is like the rotation for current destro builds(dont use curse first you need threat unless people are going to hold for you which mine didnt) Immolate &gt; searing pain &gt; Conflag &gt; Chaos bolt &gt; Searing pain &gt; Searing Pain &gt; Searing Pain (until conflag and chaos bolt are up.<br />
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For multiple targets, you MUST mark since you cant taunt, and its also preferred your dps single targets. Basically, i start with an immolate on the first target, followed by a shadowfury, then a conflag and then i immolate the other targets. From there i keep searing paining or conflagging and chaos bolting. If an add gets loose i searing pain them and they usually come back.<br />
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You can make some variations such as dropping shadowfury for another point in soul leech. Or you can drop 30% sac(Demonic Brutality) for imp health stones. <br />
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Use Demon armor, use void walker, use decent pvp gear, i use all relentless off peices. You can flask(stoneblood) if you want to, i never did. Pop indestructibles during boss fights. Always have a health stone and pet out for soul link. Make sure your healer is decent and heals your pet as well.<br />
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I most likely missed something, silly things which should be obvious most likely. Like shadow ward against people casting shadow shit at you.<br />
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OH and its nice to have a hunter or rogue in your group to MD and Tricks you if necessary.<br />
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This is not a theory, i have tanked heroics. <br />
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Entertain this idea anyone? Any suggestions? Flames? Just throwing this thing out here to help people. <br />
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Also, meta is a good spec for it too with charges and stuns and taunts and all, however the threat from it i was unsure of. 600% armor is very good. But my healer didnt have a problem keeping me up during the boss fights. I've not tried a raid yet. I'm not sure if i'll try.</div>

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			<title>Planning for Success!!</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 15:04:53 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Folks,  
  
First comment: ARRGGGGG!!!  
  
So many good thoughts in this forum .. and much confusion in this old man's mind. 
I seek you all out for...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Folks, <br />
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First comment: ARRGGGGG!!! <br />
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So many good thoughts in this forum .. and much confusion in this old man's mind.<br />
I seek you all out for you all seem to know a heck of lot more than I do. After much reading on many forums (WoW, Elitest) and even more reading (and believing) in this forum ... I beleive I have some facts, and theories down, but well.. am still very confused .. <br />
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This is what I read - understand (for PvE)..<br />
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1. Spell power is the best return for the money spec we have ... never give it up for anything else.<br />
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2. BUT, we need to remember<ul><li>Hit is a big return item and we should cap it around 368 (w/suppression &amp; 446 w/o) - plus Hit impacts Crit - for warlocks they are seperate &quot;rolls&quot; - if you hit, then crit chance rolls - if you miss,, neither happens.</li>
<li>Haste is a next, and the goal should be 500 or so (wow)</li>
<li>Crit comes third, and goal is 25% - but NOT as the expense of HIT or SP</li>
</ul>3. Don't forget Spirit - it is often underrated and forgotten - we get a 30% return as SP with Fel Armor.<br />
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4. Never gem for bonus - UNLESS it is for SP, HIT, or Haste (allows replacement of gems to better fit missing caps).<br />
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Okay folks - what first. How would you organize you quest for ultimate damage and mayhem? How would you plan your &quot;building&quot; of your toon.<br />
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Phase 1: SP to 2K, then hit to 300, then haste to 350, then crit to 20%<br />
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Phase 2: Next SP to 2.5K, then hit to 350..<br />
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Phase 3: After another patch comes out, take up heavy drinking!!<br />
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Seriously, how would you all approach this (given a 0/13/58 build)?<br />
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Thanks!!</div>

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			<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:44:18 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>So it seems affliction is still ranked as top on the EJ simcraft thread for patch 3.3. I certainly like the idea of playing affliction as my main...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>So it seems affliction is still ranked as top on the EJ simcraft thread for patch 3.3. I certainly like the idea of playing affliction as my main spec again.<br />
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So what are you planning to do ? Go affliction? Or stay with destro? <br />
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I am going to go with either a 55/1/15 or 55/0/16 build and keep my 3/13/55 as my offspec.</div>

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