Talioring/ Enchanting, Just a few Questions

[Olla]

Hi all, I"m a level 70 Orc, with everyone favorite money sinks Talioring and enchanting. I'm Stuck Atm, I'm trying the get my frozen shadoweave stuff together, I had a 10 stack of shadowcloth but accidentally sold it to a vendor while selling greys the other day.

I'm sitting at 291 Echanting/ 364 talioring. I really need soem mtoivation to get moving on this whole deal.

so....

1. What do you find to be your mnost sold enchants/ talioring items?
2. What rare or in demand recipies are popular or needed. I'd preer stuff i can grind on, but even the crazy rare stuff that drops in heroics is fine.

And a little unrelated

3. How do i keep out of the poorhouse long enough to get my 5k mount? What are some good strategies? I've quested almost all of outland out except SMV and Netherstorm. I have to unblock Og'rila and Netherwing dailies though.


Thanks In advance guys, This board has helped me a ton


Olla

[snackereen]

mh, with your professions.. difficult.
Maybe seeling some tailoring stuff (shadowcloth etc) might help a bit.

[Olla]

Thanks! Anyone else?

[Ischade]

OK now that I just finished my epic flyer I'll post this 8)

According to wowecon I've made over 3k on netherweave bags. This is my best money maker for tailoring by far. I haven't found anything else worth making.

On my server the average price for a netherweave bag is 7.5 gold. What I do is buy netherweave stacks anytime is is 3g or less per 20. No matter how many there are I buy them. This means I was buying between 200 and 1000 cloth per day on most days. I then made that cloth into bags.

It cost me just less then 4G to make a netherweave bag. I list them at 6.5G start 7.5G buyout. They usually buy out (I think I have had less then 10 returned to me in all the bags I have auctioned).

Now here's the thing. Once I had 1k in the bank on my bank/auction character I also started buying out any bags I saw on the auction house that were 7G or less unless someone dropped 10 or so on there, then I would wait a day to post mine.

It was pretty common for me to make 12-20 bags per day which was 90-150G gross or 42-70G net per day. Which I didn't consider too bad for about 10 minutes work.

Shadowcloth and spellcloth sell well but the cooldown makes this only occassionally really worth it and it is only worth selling if it is in my specialty.

Primal mooncloth bags sell well but as my specialty is shadowcloth I'm better off just selling that.

Personally I ended up dropping enchanting for mining. I get gems/motes from mining and the ore costs are starting to build my bank back up.

Enchanting was OK but at 330 I was having a hard time making any money on my server.

[tclkage]

Well here's my trick (Horde members on Executus forgive me for what I am about to tell). All you have to do is slightly rename your professions...

I'm a Tailor/Disenchanter

Enchanting mats are hands down one of the best money makers in the game. There is no deposit price at all on the auction house. This is huge. You can force high prices without loosing cash on the deposit. Try selling singletons instead of full stacks, you tend to make more money that way.
People are weird in that they'll gripe and moan over every copper spent to get something enchanted, but they still really want those enchants done. Stop trying to make money by swimming upstream and charging much for enchanting something and start making money selling the mats people need to get those enchants done in the first place. A nice trick is to put up some mats with a banking alt for obscenely high prices. Then log on with your main and spam trade chat with "Enchanting super neat enchant X, free with your mats - limited time offer!!111!!!1!" where enchant X needs the mats you just put up. Let the good times roll. How do you get all of these mats to sell?

1) Buy random magic items on the AH that DE into mats worth more then the AH item cost. I don't use mods for this, but if you want to - Auctioneer and Enchantrix will be your two new best friends. Items with +spirit are great for this because no one really wants items with +spirit and the cost usually reflects that.

2) Have an alt (ideally) or a partner (if they don't mind the mass crafting drudgery) make items to DE. My favorite item is Wicked Leather Headbands. They have the best mat cost to make versus mat price once disenchanted ratio. I also like making White Bandit Masks and Netherweave Bracers.

If you are a horde member on the Executus server and make lots of money this way, feel free to send Razakel a little tip since you've just muscled into my market

[Aimealamort]

two worthwhile, farmable enchants are the 15 spell to wrist, and 40 to weapon. i do these a lot, and they take at most a couple days to farm for. theres also good ones from instances, i do a lot of 12 stam to boots-mana tombs, theres the 35 agility to 2h-arcatraz, 12 stam to wrist-steamvaults, savagery-shattered halls. most of the rep enchants are worthwhile as well. i make good money on mongoose. i charge 25g per, usually get 5-10g more for a tip, do maybe 3 mongooses a day. if you get the popular enchants, especially the ones that require a fair amount of mats, you get decent tips. max it out, get some enchants, make a macro you press whenever you go into a main city.

as for making money, you wont if youre trying to max out both professions, id focus on that first. im in the process of saving for my epic flying mount, and i farm primals, do my dailies, search for underpriced pre-bc greens (level 52-56 especially) disenchant, and sell the mats. getting cheap cloth, or spending a bit farming for it works. either sell the cloth (goes for 4g a stack on my server) or make things that disenchant. i reccomend enchantrix, will tell you what things have a chance to de into. bags are good as well, if they sell well on your server. not on mine, i could sell the cloth needed to make a bag for more than the bag itself sells for. either make your shadowcloth and sell it, or sell your cooldown for about 30g. people ALWAYS want a cooldown.

[Olla]

Wonderful guys. This was exactly what I was looking for! Once again, the Den delivers. This is now one of my bookmarks!

[beelzebuub]

/offtopic.
Welcome back? Or am I mistaking. That is one of you missed friend Circuit's forum tags and I have not seen it in a while. But my memory does not serve me well.

Back to topic.
Contact a GM about your Shadowcloth sale. You can have one item (a month or so) in a certain time period restored. Like in a wrong Disenchant.
I would say that your shadowcloth is a valuable item you would like to have restored.

[vfrgurrl]

Don't turn up your nose at making the twink tailoring items. Anything that is level 19, 29, etc will usually sell. Keep making the other specialized cloth. You can always find someone who needs the mooncloth or spellcloth and wants to trade.

Currently I'm 375 tailoring/343 enchanting. The new Lootables tabe in the WoW Community site really helped me decide which enchants to concentrate on. I keep a full set of level 35-45 gear in the bank just for junk enchants.

Cloak of the Black Void has been good. Runecloth headbands DE into profitable mats. Sell bolts of cloth in sets of 2, as there are some other profession recipes (I believe blacksmithing and engineering) that need them. Robes of Arcana are needed for the warlock quest. Grind the recipe in Duskwood and you can make an easy 7-9g on them on my server.

Enchantrix is incredibly valuable. You can see at a glance what an item DE's into. The best thing I ever did was get this mod. Hope this helps!

[Malevevely]

I will never have an epic flyer I spend all my money on gear upgrades. Tailoring pats that sell well are spellstrike and battlecast, belt of blasting is really the best one in SSC/TK. Enchanting the mats are your best bet but I have also sold a few 35 agi for like 250g and stam/spelldmg enchants sell well (bracers especially) Anything rare and useful, farm 40 spell damage etc and you will make money, get raid pats and you will make more money!