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April 25, 2009, 08:27 AM

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extempore2

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Extemporal
66 Undead Warlock

Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions

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Originally Posted by RelaxMan

i don't recommend JC & Enchanting personally.... JC is hard enough to level as it is, but leveling it without a miner will only prove to be even more difficult. while these two professions would be considered "max dps" professions, & great gold makers, they're only good if you can get them to 450 to begin with...

i would recommend tailoring & enchanting for a number of reasons
1 - tailoring is one of the few professions you can level while just playing the game. most of your mats come from simply killing humanoids (cloth...). when i rolled my warlock i really never had to farm for anything - i just hoarded every bit of cloth i could find
2 - the changes made to 3.1 tailoring are quite nice (specifically the embroidery). you can get a very good amount of dps out of that sucker. i realize that's not your main concern in pvp, but it's worth thinking about
3 - tailoring & enchanting are like peanut butter & jelly. i honestly don't think i could have ever leveled my enchanting without tailoring. it was really easy to stack up some cloth, turn it into belts, and DE them for mats to do enchanting. at your level, you could easily pick both of these up and do RFC / SFK runs solo to get it up past the "wool" area (i dunno, level 150 or something?)
4 - being able to get your OWN mats for enchants probably saves you more money than you earn from the profession. as an enchanter, you can DE any bind on pickup quest reward for mats - this is something that no one else can do. i leveled my enchanting from 400-440 mostly by running northrend quests AFTER i hit 80. plus, if you're looking to power level it's really easy to plow those lowbie instances for greens - or even do low level quests for the BoP rewards.

so yeah... currently i'm an enchanter/engineer. while i love engineering, i couldn't pull it off if i didn't have a farming alt - and i never would have leveled my enchanting had i not done it in conjunction with tailoring as i leveled. EVERYONE uses enchants, and if you're someone that's short on play time & short on cash, this is an excellent profession to pick up because the mats are fairly easy to come by for your own enchants. in my eyes, it is by far more of a money saving profession, than a money making profession.

totally your call and i'm not a PvPer - i know a lot of PvP folks use engineering trinkets, and jewelcrafting is nice no matter what you do. but imo tailoring/enchanting is the bread & butter for any lock who's short on cash, or doesn't have a level 80 already

great advice and every well said! i already have some cloth stored so id have a boost in that regard.

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April 25, 2009, 09:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Koldfeat Character Info Koldfeat 80 Undead Warlock Draenor US PvE Guild: Trouble Talent Spec: Spec?	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions Enchanting is a solid profession, simple as that. As has been said, more of a money saver than money maker, but I've yet to meet an Enchanter that's regretted skilling it. Forever useful. From the lowliest casual to the hardcorest raider, you will always be getting new gear and wanting it enchanted. It's good, people that level enchanting almost never want to drop it it seems. Been a chanter since day one and no plans of dropping it ever. Inscription, a viable profession for any class really, similar to enchanting without the day to day usefulness in my opinion. Can't really think of a reason not to take this as a warlock, on the other hand, can't really think of a reason why you'd want it. Alchemy, most "crafter" intensive profession. Easy to level, if you enjoy the role playing aspect of "using" a profession, alchemy will give you many opportunities to gather/buy materials and create products for use and/or resale. Raiding use is convenience, pvp use is unique, Arena only potions! JC vs Tailoring, currently both are very flavor of the weekish. You can't really go wrong with either, both have some great benefits. JC is more troublesome to level in my opinion. Gathering professions, fine for leveling, great for dropping once you reach 80 and/or a comfortable income level. No real benefit at 80 besides some time consuming money making ability. Engineering very much takes a certain perspective on the game to enjoy. I enjoy it immensely. Most hilarious, funnest profession in the game. Actual tangible benefits are negligible. Money making abilities approach zero. Coolest most awesome profession possible? Yes.

April 25, 2009, 10:36 AM	#13 (permalink)
Vaevicitis Character Info Vaevicitis 70 Gnome Warlock Fenris US PvE Guild: Fatality Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions I used to be mining / engineering, but i dropped it with the expansion and am now herbalism / alchemy. If i had to do it all over again, I would probably have kept mining and and taken jewelcrafting, which is currently the best profession for DPS. (I thought I would take inscription so I had all my herbs ready to go to level from 1-375, but work caught up with me and I wasn't able to play the xpack until about a week ago) As for engineering - it can be fun, but it doesn't offer much in terms of gold generation or gear upgrades. It usually ends up costing you more money than you really get out of it. The one advantage to engineering is that you can get a bunch of trinkets to help you out. It seems like it was more useful in lower level PVP, because great trinkets like the Gnomish Net-o-Matic Projector or items such as Gnomish Mind Control Cap have become dated and no longer are very effective in PVP. There are still some damage shield belts, parachute cloaks, and increased run speed boots which can help, but definitely dont have the added utility engineering used to bring. Possibly my favorite engineering device, Goblin Jumper Cables XL, is still alive and well in a new form that combines all your engineering tools into one slot. (It probably works about 10% of the time at best though) Just remember that for any gathering profession you will have to go back through the starting zones to level it. This could take anywhere from a few days to a week, depending on how often you play - so just be aware that its something you will have to do. On the plus side, if you level it now you will be able to gather your way to 80 (rather than leveling and then going back to work on professions)

April 25, 2009, 11:58 AM

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extempore2

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Extemporal
66 Undead Warlock

Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions

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Originally Posted by Vaevicitis

I used to be mining / engineering, but i dropped it with the expansion and am now herbalism / alchemy. If i had to do it all over again, I would probably have kept mining and and taken jewelcrafting, which is currently the best profession for DPS. (I thought I would take inscription so I had all my herbs ready to go to level from 1-375, but work caught up with me and I wasn't able to play the xpack until about a week ago)

As for engineering - it can be fun, but it doesn't offer much in terms of gold generation or gear upgrades. It usually ends up costing you more money than you really get out of it. The one advantage to engineering is that you can get a bunch of trinkets to help you out. It seems like it was more useful in lower level PVP, because great trinkets like the Gnomish Net-o-Matic Projector or items such as Gnomish Mind Control Cap have become dated and no longer are very effective in PVP. There are still some damage shield belts, parachute cloaks, and increased run speed boots which can help, but definitely dont have the added utility engineering used to bring. Possibly my favorite engineering device, Goblin Jumper Cables XL, is still alive and well in a new form that combines all your engineering tools into one slot. (It probably works about 10% of the time at best though)

Just remember that for any gathering profession you will have to go back through the starting zones to level it. This could take anywhere from a few days to a week, depending on how often you play - so just be aware that its something you will have to do. On the plus side, if you level it now you will be able to gather your way to 80 (rather than leveling and then going back to work on professions)

For tailoring, I'd technically have to gather (farm cloth) unless I buy it at the Ah right? And as for enchanting, my understanding is I'd need to go do a bunch of low level quests to get items to disenchant, and work my way up? So both of these technically require gathering in a sense? I guess my question is, are there any professions where I don't have to spend days-weeks revisiting lower level zones and farming/mining/skinning/etc.?

April 25, 2009, 12:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bo_Shilo Character Info Sittingbull 80 Human Warlock Twisting Nether US RP PvP Guild: WOW First Ward Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/18/0	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions Gathering..both mining & herbalism...sell on weekends and stock extra on a bank alt when you hit 80 and have money in bank then look at changing you profession to to say tailoring/engineering

April 25, 2009, 08:09 PM

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Vaevicitis

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Vaevicitis
70 Gnome Warlock
Fenris US PvE
Guild: Fatality
Talent Spec: 0/21/40

Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions

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Originally Posted by extempore2

you can buy low level items and enchanting mats directly from the AH to level enchanting. This will be a more effective use of your time than revisiting lower level quests. For tailoring, you can either buy lower level cloth from the AH or solo lower level instances.

In fact, the best way to level both tailoring and enchanting is to solo lower level instances (deadmines, then gnomer, etc etc). There are alot of cloth drops and you can disenchant all of the items which drop. This also doesnt break the bank buying all the required mats on the AH

As to your second question, all professions will require you to level them using low level mats. Gathering professions will require you to directly farm the mats, others will just require you have them. If your lacking the money to "powerlevel" any particular non-gathering profession, this is going to involve going back to low level zones.

However, if you do this now you only have to level them up to ~350, then they should level themselves on the push to 80. If you wait, you'll have to grind all the way up to 450...

April 25, 2009, 11:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
sweetfinger Character Info sweetfinger 70 Undead Warlock Turalyon Euro PvE Talent Spec: 26/35/0	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions I found that enchanting was the biggest money maker in the game. All you need is the Auctioneer addon from here: Auctioneer addon for World of Warcraft collect some auction data for a week or two then buy up green/blue/purple armour Dis-Enchant it and sell the dust, shards etc. All you need to do is to make a note of the current cost of each reagent, the addon will tell you how much of what reagent you will get from DE'ing the item then do the following: no. of reagents x market value of reagent - cost of item = profit!

April 26, 2009, 12:21 AM	#18 (permalink)
extempore2 Character Info Extemporal 66 Undead Warlock	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions awesome thanks guys. great advice. i think im gonna go tailoring/enchanting due to the symbiosm between the two and just run lower level dungeons as mentioned above! ill definitely check out that addon.

June 08, 2009, 01:59 AM	#19 (permalink)
copperbit	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions pvp and more fun, engineering please earn gold and enhance the gears, jewelcrafting will be better, the 1-450 leveling guide may help you here: guy4game.com/wowguide/store/preview.htm?aid=510 Mining is well supportted to the both

June 08, 2009, 02:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
Tesk Character Info Tesk 70 Human Warlock Eldre'Thalas US PvE Guild: Celestial Knights Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 40/0/21	Re: Help please!! Overwhelmed by professions I agree with Relaxman. Gemcrafting is a nice profession, but it really needs mining as a support, or else it is expensive to level. So you'd have to either level an alt with mining to help out or spend more time farming or doing dailies for gold to buy the ore and gems you'll need. Enchanting/Tailoring is a good combo for a first (clothie class) character with limited play time (I am assuming you don't have support alts who can mine and herb and so forth). You get the cloth off mobs you kill, make items and then DE the ones that you don't need for enchanting mats. Once you are higher level, enchanting can make decent money off surplus dusts and essences and what not and enchant your own gear. And with tailoring, you can make the starter blue sets to get you going in pvp or pugging or whatever. Other good combos are herbing and either alchemy or inscription. IMO, alchemy has lost some of its sparkle in this xpac. But the extra time on flasks is nice while raiding. Not sure how useful that would be in arena fights or BGs, which are shorter than raids. Jewelcrafting and mining go well together. Having a gathering profession when you have only one toon makes sense, because you can sell surplus ore or herbs (ore is a better money maker on my serverthese days, but who knows how the game may change in future). So I'd probably take enchanting/tailoring in your shoes. Last edited by Tesk; June 08, 2009 at 02:52 AM..

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