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Old May 23, 2009, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Lathiel
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Chamber of Aspects Euro PvE
Guild: Penance
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Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Jewelcrafting in 3.2

After this: Upcoming Jewelcrafting Change

What do people think? I think it's a fair nerf to bring it in line with other professions, but at the same time, a bit harsh that it's unexpected, and without compromise (the tokens are hardly a compromise). Cos if epic gems arrive, and JC's don't get anything extra, it'll suck to be a JC in terms of prof. bonuses.

I'm talking from purely a raid/dps point of view, but feel free to mention it's benefit in terms of gold/profit.

I'm mining/engi atm, and was thinking of taking JC instead of engi, but now this...?
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Old May 23, 2009, 04:26 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Argana
80 Warlock
Euro
Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

I'm hoping they do something sensible with this and bring JC into line with other professions. They could easily change the JC gems, or allow 4 perhaps so that 4x[the difference between the epics and the Dragon's Eyes] is the right number.

However... that would require someone at Blizzard to be sensible...
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Old May 23, 2009, 04:37 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Anij
70 Human Warlock
Anvilmar US PvE
Guild: unguilded
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

JC wasn't crap in BC and quite frankly it isn't crap now. It was great leveling, with access to all the trinkets and such, but end game there realy wasn't anything JC offered that you realy couldn't miss not having. Ok so you get a couple gems that have a few extra spell power but they're BOP/Unique. so at the end all your getting out of JCIng is 3 extra spell power or a gem that doesnt adhere to socket colors. Woopdy-f'ing-doo. I can't beleive people would actually drop a proff just to pick up JC, but then again most don't realize how limited it is until after they get it. Personally tailoring is a much better proffession for entry level raiding than JC ever was.
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Old May 23, 2009, 04:51 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Hakasa
80 Orc Warlock
Elune US PvE
Guild: European Devils
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 55/0/16
Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

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JC wasn't crap in BC and quite frankly it isn't crap now. It was great leveling, with access to all the trinkets and such, but end game there realy wasn't anything JC offered that you realy couldn't miss not having. Ok so you get a couple gems that have a few extra spell power but they're BOP/Unique. so at the end all your getting out of JCIng is 3 extra spell power or a gem that doesnt adhere to socket colors. Woopdy-f'ing-doo. I can't beleive people would actually drop a proff just to pick up JC, but then again most don't realize how limited it is until after they get it. Personally tailoring is a much better proffession for entry level raiding than JC ever was.
You're very wrong, JC is one of the highest DPS Profession increases atm(that and tailoring). The nerf that's going to happen will change that though.

The 3 extra gems are(were soon) prismatic and you could activate your Metas without having to actually use say a blue gem. Same goes for socket bonuses.

You gain 39 spellpower from those extra gems, not to mention possible socket bonuses bringing that up. That's a decent amount of spell damage. And on top of that like I mentioned before, you can activate your metas too(which you won't be able to do before long if I read the nerf right)
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Old May 23, 2009, 04:56 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Koldfeat
80 Undead Warlock
Draenor US PvE
Guild: Trouble
Talent Spec: Spec?
Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

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I'm talking from purely a raid/dps point of view
I believe Lightweave beats all other professions easily for unique Raid/DPS benefit.
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Old May 23, 2009, 05:27 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Lathiel
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Chamber of Aspects Euro PvE
Guild: Penance
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Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

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I believe Lightweave beats all other professions easily for unique Raid/DPS benefit.
Yes it does. But I suspect that Blizz may hit it with a nerf soon, that and enchating/JC tend to be a tad more useful to everyone else.

I want to pick up enchating/JC/tailoring, but can't decide which two >_<
I like the freedom to get my gems from JC very much, and will definately take it. But this recent patch note got me thinking...

If you have an alt with Enchanting, your main can't benefit from it, so I was thinking of taking it. However tailoring gives the highest dps (at the moment anyway). Whereas tailoring alts can make the Brilliant Spellthread and mail it to your main, but you lose out on the embroidery...

Argh! Decisions! >_<
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Old May 23, 2009, 05:53 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

It's a shame really, I'm always been a tailor and since Wrath of the Lich King it's finally got some raid use. I'd love for them to keep Lightweave for a bit longer since we spent so long with a rubbish bonus, though I suspect if their plan is to even things up then they'll have to nerf it a bit. Let's just hope they don't go too far as they usually do.

Posters about who doubt that JC is "that" good at the moment are certainly wrong. The benefit of being allowed to reach socket bonuses for free (though that's really the same argument as the meta issue so isn't two bonuses) as well as the extra 39 spellpower is bigger than many other professions.
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Old May 23, 2009, 09:12 PM   #8 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

If they add a better back enchant in the next patch, this will be an indirect nerf to the lightweave embroidery. At the moment I would say its a bit better than the other profession rewards.

The jewelcrafting is 39 spellpower plus what you gain by replacing three +9 sp/+8 (spirit, haste, crit, hit) by +19 sp gems... roughly I'd say that this is worth another 15 spellpower. Removing this second bonus still leaves JC in a very good shape. The only problem I see is that at some point epic gems with +23 sp will show up, reducing the bonus of JC to 27 spellpower... unless they are aware of this and increase the stats on the JC only gems too, but I doubt that.

Well, some time ago I was thinking about dropping tailoring for jewelcrafting, just for the prismatic gems. I'm happy right now I didn't do it but trained a JC/mining deathknight instead. Would have been such a waste of gold.

As highest dps specs keep changing, so do professions and gear sets and so on. There were leatherworking warlocks in The Burning Crusade for the drums, and I guess many jewelcrafters right now. Min-maxers will maybe change back to some other profession once the jewelcrafting changes go live, and will blow a lot of money doing this. If you choose to go this way, its fine, just don't complain when things change again at some point.
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Old May 23, 2009, 11:25 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Tschala
80 Human Warlock
Aggramar Euro PvE
Guild: The Optima
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Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

Yeah, since Lightweave procs from nearly anything...
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Old May 24, 2009, 03:54 AM   #10 (permalink)

Re: Jewelcrafting in 3.2

the main thing about JC gems right now is

a) you can slot them into crappy slots like blue / yellow ( if you're a caster but yellow still has some decent gems unlike blue ) or just plain blue if you're a healer

b) meta activation without needing to meet requirements

we'll lose both of these in 3.2 but the extra stat increase will still be pretty decent. having said that, if blizzard decides to add epic gem patterns in then JC will prob be screwed unless we get upgrades to our dragon eye
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