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Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
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Salvation 67 Undead Warlock Lightbringer Euro PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/5/10 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
Guide is imporving with every draft , and is excellent. but I still don't understand the use of Amplify Curse and Curse of Exhaustion in terms of Drain-Tanking .. so if you could explain I would love to hear. And as for the Hybrid talent builds , I assume most will only start being any kind of effective at a higher level than 30 , but I might be wrong so currect me if I am and if I am right , maybe add a recommanded level to start using them |
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Bargain 80 Orc Warlock Skullcrusher US PvP Guild: No You Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/57 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
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I would venture to guess that the hybrid variations are not very useful until level 70 in which you can have everything. No matter which path you choose on those, you're going to be gimped while leveling. As for the Amp. Curse and CoEx, I would say they're almost filler talents. This is my personal opinion on a "Drain Tanking" build, even though I've tried to keep it as neutral as possible. I mean, if you really need an idea of how to use them: - You just used Life Tap a few too many times and notice an add coming. You throw CoEx on him in order to keep your distance and be able to rely on Corruption and Drain Life to bring him down. - Once again, you meant to take on 2 mobs, but got a 3rd. You use Amp. Curse in order to make your Curse of Agony more potent and throw it on that last mob in order to take him down quicker. It's really personal opinion with some moves, especially those that come from talents. Just like I modified the Destruction hybrid builds to include Shadowburn because I think that's a nice move to have. |
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Kobekid 80 Human Warlock Kilrogg US PvE Guild: Good With Ketchup Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
Everything looks spot on to me, but I think you should include instant Howl of Terror grinding to post-60 leveling. When done correctly and in a good spot, it is the fastest way to grind/farm mobs during this stage. Seed of Corruption at 70 can give it a run for its money, but it's a bit more risky. While instant Howl of Terror grinding is still more dangerous, it's twice as fast as any form of Felguard/Drain tank style. The build can be reached as early as level 61: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=AAMrbRfkqtboZxx0z Ideally you want to be in an area where you can use an AOE fear after grabbing 4-6 mobs. It's best to fight mobs about 2 levels lower than you, who don't have overly quick moving speeds and don't have any major stuns or CC. Also have your Succubus start attacking that mob making sure her abilities are all on autocast. You will need her DPS and mana. +damage gear is key, but stamina and intellect don't hurt either. Another thing that can help is a minor speed enchant to boots, but it is not necessary. Start by DoTing one mob with Unstable Affliction. Run away from that mob while casting Curse of Agony, Corruption, and SL. Have Succubus attack the first mob. When you are running from the first mob, use Curse of Agony, SL, Corruption on more mobs that you see. Eventually you should be surrounded and that is when you use your instant howl of terror. Keep reapplying DoTs (you can put UA now on the feared mobs since you aren't being attacked. Have your Succubus focus on the mob with the least health left. Nightfall should proc because of all the mobs you have Corruption on, which you use to help on the mob with the lowest health. -Use your Nightfall procs and Shadowburn for some instant DD, which should be targeted on the mob with the lowest health. Don't be shy with Shadowburn. -Dark Pact for mana as much as possible. Life Tapping should be your second resort. However, after you have 3 or more mobs with SL on, feel free to Life Tap as you will get your health back. -Try to have 4-5 mobs on you before using iHoT. -Drain Soul the last 2-3 mobs to get nearly half your mana pool back and the shards you used on Shadowburn. -CoEx works great if you find that you are being surrounded and need to kite the mobs for a little longer. -Try using a CoD on one of the last mobs you intend to kill. That pretty much covers it. |
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Bargain 80 Orc Warlock Skullcrusher US PvP Guild: No You Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/57 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
Genius. Adding a post-60 Affliction build to "Drain Tank" with in a guide on how to "Drain Tank." ...Why didn't I think of that? >_> Thanks again Canadianpimp! I'll definitely include a summarized version of that in my next draft. |
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Salvation 67 Undead Warlock Lightbringer Euro PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/5/10 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
Well , thanks for the reply and I see your use for them but I just don't like using them and seems to much micro mangmeant for me , so I'll try to fill my talents some other way ^^ and Canadianpimp hell if I can wait till 61 to test that baby , awesome system |
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Bargain 80 Orc Warlock Skullcrusher US PvP Guild: No You Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/57 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
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And trust me, if you think noticing Amp. Curse and CoEx situations calls for micro managment, then you're going to a lot of practice trying Canadianpimp's method. I'm not trying to be mean there, as I realize it could be taken the wrong way, but AoE Affliction grinding calls for watching a lot of DoT meters and positioning of yourself and your enemies. Don't let me scare you off that though, because trust me, once you get it down, it'll be a blast. http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ction+grinding This video is a great example of it. |
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Salvation 67 Undead Warlock Lightbringer Euro PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/5/10 |
Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
I meant to much micromangmeant for lower levels , trust me I know all about micro and I love it , one of the many reasons I choose to level a warlock is that wide arsenal we have ^^ I have a problem of hating lower levels so I keep them as simple as possible. as for the my change of talents , I put another point in Imp. Drain Soul and Shadow Embrace (an extra affil effect for more life drained) , works much better for me and the mobs go down easy. |
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Re: A Guide to "Drain Tanking" (Draft 3)
Good guide. Just to answer the question about CoEX... I use it when things go bad in grinding and PvP. This allows you to create some distance for a few extra ticks of SL & DL in emergencies. It also has the benefit of giving you an edge if you get jumped on a PvP server.
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