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July 31, 2007, 08:09 PM
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Darkblayde 70 Undead Warlock Tanaris US PvE Guild: Renewal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 48/2/11 |
The Haste vs Dmg Question
so spell damage increases the damage of our spells, and spell haste decreases cast times...however, i heard from a friend that the amount of spell damage your spells receive is based on the cast time (basically longer cast = more spell damage applied). in this case, would it not mean that getting more spell haste is effectively nerfing my damage? i had had thoughts about getting enough haste to be able to knock off quite a bit of cast time from the longer spells, but i'm not sure this would be as desirable if it is nerfing my damage...any thoughts?
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July 31, 2007, 08:45 PM
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Litharran 66 Blood Elf Warlock Firetree US PvP Guild: Addicts on Nightlife Talent Spec: 5/45/11 |
Re: damage and haste...
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August 01, 2007, 07:33 AM
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Re: damage and haste...
I would really like to see more first hand information about haste from someone who has obtained several items. I bet when you are a Shadowbolt Spammer you will peform great with the cast time. The Mana Argument is not totally valid for Warlocks. |
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August 01, 2007, 10:09 AM
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Debuff 80 Orc Warlock Sargeras US PvP Guild: Fenrir Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: damage and haste...
Lazyslothboy has it right, the spell damage coefficient that spells receive is based off of cast time, but its based off of a spells original, untalented, unmodified cast time. So when you get haste effects, all your spells still have their normal spell damage coefficients. |
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August 01, 2007, 10:38 AM
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Conchrot 70 Undead Warlock Anub'arak US PvP Guild: Revolving Door Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: damage and haste...
Yup, if reducing cast times reduced the damage dealt there would be no point to reduce cast times.
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August 01, 2007, 08:36 PM
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Darkblayde 70 Undead Warlock Tanaris US PvE Guild: Renewal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 48/2/11 |
Re: damage and haste...
excellent! i wonder how large of a spell haste pool you will be able to accumulate in the next expansion (northrend)....
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February 09, 2008, 08:59 AM
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Balancing Spell Dmg / Spell Haste
Hey guys, It seems all the new stuff is about spell haste. How do we go about balancing spell haste and spell damage? Ie, 1 point of spell damage is ok to give up for how many points of spell haste? Thank you for any insight, FI |
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February 09, 2008, 09:20 AM
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SavageBT 80 Undead Warlock Khaz'Goroth Oceania PvE Guild: Khazuals Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/0/18 |
Re: Balancing Spell Dmg / Spell Haste
The guide to raiding spell rotation and raiding stats. - The Warlocks Den Forums Check out the destruction section. |
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April 29, 2008, 02:33 PM
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Thephoenix 70 Gnome Warlock Spinebreaker US PvP Guild: EvenMyToiletPapersEpic Talent Spec: 0/21/40 |
Spell haste V spell damage
First the conclusion is for 0/21/40 shadow locks on when 1 point of spell haste is more powerful than 1 point of damage: answer is 1233 shadow damage. For fire destro locks (spamming incinerate not immolate): 1220.4 fire damage All the complicated math is found in the following http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t25106-t..._dmg_warlocks/ |
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April 29, 2008, 02:51 PM
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Re: Spell haste V spell damage
Interesting numbers there. I've always heard people preach 1400ish shadow damage until haste is better than damage. This makes me want to re-gem with all haste/damage gems!
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