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October 30, 2008, 02:01 PM
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Common misunderstandings for Warlock DPS.
I have seen several threads complaining about lock dps. While I agree my damage is slightly lower it is not that noticible. DPS for locks is affected by dots, and the 2 most popular specs now are affliction or some for of fire destro that involves tossing up dots for the molten core proc. Dps stands for damage per second. When you are tossing up dots, you are doing damage for a greater time period. When you are SB spamming, and you run low on mana... the damage timer stops while you are life tapping because you are not doing damage or casting for damage. Thus you have high dps, because your SB's are hitting anywhere from 2400 damage to wonderful 8-9k crit ISB procs, not relying on lots of low damage dots that are continuous regardless of movement or non damage attacks. Now when you have your dots running, times that you are running during the fight that would normally not be registerring during a fight as "dps" time, are because your dots are ticking. If you ever look at WoWebstats you will notice there is a column for your "damage-time" or something close to that name. Affliction locks are always much higher on that. In fact, the only other 2 classes that are as high as affliction locks are hunters and rogues. Usually I am at 90% as opposed to an affliction lock who will be 98-99%. I know most will understand this concept, but I just wanted to clear it up for those who are talking about dwindling dps. I use to be #1 on dps all the time. meanwhile I ranged from #1-5 on actual damage according to the meters. Now I am typically #3 on damage but completely out of the top 10 for dps. It is not the dps that maters... it is the actual damage. And they do not go hand in hand unless you are a non-dot using warlock. Hope that cleared some questions up! Also, damage and dps are both lower for locks right now because the fights are substantially shorter (remember 30% health nerf). Locks thrive on meters when the fights are longer. If it is longer, rogues get stretched thin on energy, warriors on rage, mages on mana, etc... We lifetap. When the fights take longer, expect to see your finishing place increase as well. |
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October 30, 2008, 02:42 PM
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Alyrienne 70 Human Warlock Silvermoon Euro PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/5 |
Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
Excellent post indeed, and may I say, you'd be surprised how many people do not grasp this basic concept |
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October 30, 2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
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And then found out they were looking at dps and not damage. Thanks folks, just trying to straighten up some confusion. |
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October 30, 2008, 04:33 PM
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puglug 80 Human Warlock Garona US PvE Guild: Legâcy Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/0/17 |
Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
The raiding I have experienced post-3.0.2 seems to indicate the boss fights are over very quickly. This does not give our DoTs time to run, and inflates the other classes that have higher DPS numbers. I am hoping Blizzards comments about raiding will be more balanced at level 80 will eventually become true. I certainly enjoyed the challenge of a 10-minute boss fight, but that simply does not happen any longer. Without those long-duration fights, warlocks do not get their chance to shine. Patience is apparently our calling... 
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October 30, 2008, 04:44 PM
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Warloco 80 Blood Elf Warlock Twilight's Hammer Euro PvP Guild: DeathWishers Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/40/31 |
Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
Thank you for that post, I feel much better now  . I've understood the "time in" for fights before, but somehow it makes more sense now.
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October 30, 2008, 06:59 PM
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Devoid 80 Gnome Warlock Antonidas US PvE Guild: No Drama Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
Great post. It clears up many misconceptions and explains the current state of Warlocks in general. The other idea that it really brings home is... BRING ON THE EXPANSION! |
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October 30, 2008, 07:59 PM
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Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
My DPS has only dropped by 100 but my place on the meters is pretty low because other classes have gotten buffed at 70. I consistently get out damaged and out DPS'd by hunters, mages, and even boomkins and shamans. They do twice as much damage and 400-800 more DPS in similar gear. I'm just trying to keep the faith that at level 80 things are normal. I don't need for warlocks to be crazy OP but I sure as hell won't accept being out-gunned by a fricking shaman. EVER |
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October 30, 2008, 08:02 PM
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Re: Common misunderstanding for lock dps.
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