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Old December 16, 2008, 04:44 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Halfdane
80 Gnome Warlock
arygos US PvE
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The Warlock Aggro Question
Ok I am a very well geared warlock think 1750 spellpower unbuffed and 4k dps raidbuffed without heroism. I understand I should have high aggro but is anyone else experienceing unusualy high aggro from their spells. I run with mages often and their frostfire bolts that do more damage and are longer cast times do 1/2 of the aggro my incinerate does and on top of that i also have 3 dots random shadow bolts chaos bolts and the conflagerate. Raid buffed im pulling off of main tanks and even after a soulshatter in a min or 2 im able to get right back up to pulling off of the tank even with hunter misdirects and the warrior -10% aggro buff. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Old December 16, 2008, 05:19 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Tanks should be able to generate a lot more threat. The only fight where I have agro problems is Malygos, due to the spark buffs.

Does your destro spec include Destructive Reach? I'd be surprised if it didn't.

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I run with mages often and their frostfire bolts that do more damage and are longer cast times do 1/2 of the aggro my incinerate does
This is unlikely. Damage directly generates agro. Mages may have some threat-reducing talents, but so do we. They also have Invisibility to reduce threat, whereas we have Soulshatter.

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Old December 16, 2008, 05:43 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Fizzik
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Dunemaul US PvP
Guild: Ghosts of Damnation
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: The Warlock Aggro Question
Don't really have too many aggro problems - like previous posters have said, aggro is not as problematic as it was in BC for tanks (even non-aoe tanks) to hold.

When the tank slips though, I usually take aggro before anyone else. I'm guessing this is due to inability to 'take a break' since with all the Dots up, I'm doing pretty consistent damage to the mob whereas a burst damage dealer can always let threat cool down a bit. It could also be due to the combo damage/healing we do (? - I'm guessing, any opinions?) and the fact that our burst damage (SB, Haunt refresh, Immo) comes on top of our Dots.

Of course I'm talking Afflic here, but that's my experience.
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Old December 16, 2008, 06:20 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Cynamun
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Fizzcrank US PvE
Guild: Straight Outa Stratholme
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 00/41/30
Re: The Warlock Aggro Question
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Ok I am a very well geared warlock think 1750 spellpower unbuffed and 4k dps raidbuffed without heroism. I understand I should have high aggro but is anyone else experienceing unusualy high aggro from their spells. I run with mages often and their frostfire bolts that do more damage and are longer cast times do 1/2 of the aggro my incinerate does and on top of that i also have 3 dots random shadow bolts chaos bolts and the conflagerate. Raid buffed im pulling off of main tanks and even after a soulshatter in a min or 2 im able to get right back up to pulling off of the tank even with hunter misdirects and the warrior -10% aggro buff. Anyone have any suggestions?
Just to re-iterate what the other posters have said, you should not have any aggro problem in the XPack unless you significantly out-gear your tank or your tank is very incompetent. The only time you might have aggro problem is with those aggro-resetting bosses, which there are very few in the new Xpack. Without knowing your raid make-up and WWS, all I could recommend is invest points in threat-reducing talent if you haven't, watch your Omen - halting dps if need to, and try to shatter after passing 120% of tank threat.
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Old December 16, 2008, 07:22 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Alter of Storms US PvP
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does and on top of that i also have 3 dots random shadow bolts chaos bolts and the conflagerate.
/cast conflagerate. tisk tisk. that sir is a dps loss.
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Old December 16, 2008, 10:34 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Vaell
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Scarshield Legion Euro RP PvP
Guild: The Final Contingency
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/cast conflagerate. tisk tisk. that sir is a dps loss.
Given that the OP is purported to be doing 4,000 DPS and in danger of tanking, a DPS loss in this case probably isn't a bad thing.
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Old December 18, 2008, 09:16 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Kaymorolis
80 Undead Warlock
Exodar US PvE
Guild: Mediocrity
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Talent Spec: 0/3/58
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/cast conflagerate. tisk tisk. that sir is a dps loss.
Even if it procs Backdraft?
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Old December 22, 2008, 11:04 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Zamp
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Stormreaver US PvP
Guild: Elusive
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Talent Spec: 3/13/55
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[Soul Shatter]
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Old December 22, 2008, 11:08 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Yawg
70 Gnome Warlock
Staghelm US PvE
Guild: Knights of the Rose
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Talent Spec: 40/0/21
Re: The Warlock Aggro Question
I speced affliction last night for the first time in awhile. I a speced for max dps with my gear so I didn;t take the 10% less threat, but on Kel'Thuzad I was always 2nd on threat pretty close to the tank sometimes. Every time I soul shattered it wouldn;t take very long to get back to 2nd, and since I was second I took the big frost bolt every time the rouges missed the kick. On the last attempt I died was dead for almost 1 min befor I got a brez, and even then I was back to 2nd in threat after about 45 seconds.
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Old December 22, 2008, 12:11 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Belthezor
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Draenor US PvE
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Guild: BCBuds
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Talent Spec: 56/0/15
Re: The Warlock Aggro Question
I am not that well geared yet.. a few epics but mostly blues. I only run 5man now (trying to gear up before doing raids) but I have notice I am often getting aggro. I have taken threat reducing talents too. I thought it was only me until reading this.
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