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Published by Xaos
December 23, 2007 |
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Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
Thanks for the summary. Just one question: What is neccesarily different for Affliction or destruction? With Affliction you can make up for *some* +hit with supression (not for SBs) and need the same +crit. With Destruction (Shadowmage Variant) you need 202 hit, +damage and high crit, usually you won't get a LOT more than 30% anyway. Firelock is slightly different, but few play that anyway. Don't get me wrong, I just don't see the difference. If I do focus on Demonology as a Felguard spec (I think you mean that) and aim for 20-30% damage by FG you must take into account that the FG has fixed miss rate and no way for making that up. So 202 hit can't be the only aim after all. You need high +Stamina for pet scaling (AOE damage) and generally anything that scales (Stamina, Int, damage, Armor) has more value for your pet. I might be dumb though. |
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Character Info
Xaos 70 Undead Warlock Defias Brotherhood Euro RP PvP Guild: Last Stand Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40 |
Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
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in general Destro goes for more +crit and places less value on stam, its quite common to see destro locks wearing +damage items with awful stats on them (like belt of blasting) most destro locks i know float around 30% crit raid affliction (ones with at least 11 destro) tend to load up on +hit first, then damage, and only float around 20% crit. with both the above spec's its quite often for them to take non-tier set epics over T5 (or even some T6 apparently) while with a demo lock the tier loot is generally your best friend. Oddly Demo raiding isn't all about the Fg meleeing, he should do around 16-20% of your damage in a "tank and spank" boss fight. maybe oneday they'll add +hit pet scaling and that will change. Getting your felguard to 6k life unbuffed results in it having nearly 10k when full raid buffed, that is enough to survive any encounter except the couple that are totaly anti felguard. there's no need to stack tons of stam on a raid demo lock, getting a 6k felguard is just a matter of getting Tier loot, and progressing into T6 instances, while stam is nice because of DK's scaling it is overshadowed by stacking +damage in terms of DPS ability. Demo is really about the raw base damage you have over other spec's and the survivability. (currently raid buffed i hit 1.5k+damage and float around 13k life / 10k mana (and im still wearing spellstrike pants) once the buffs start stacking on you and your felguard your gains become comical, its great now greater kings treats your FG as a warrior for class buffing. Gear wise Demo walks the middle line between affliction and destro, with more emphasis on base damage. you still need the 202 cap like all warlocks that raid T5+ you want more crit than an affliction lock, but less than a destro one, generally your gear + DT gives enough crit, so you can forget about +crit gems that many destro locks still use. You have 15% more stam, 3%more life and soul link.. and your looking to pick up tier gear quite often over the non tierset loot. this alone gives you more than enough STAM and INT making those gems also pointless. in the end this lets you load up on +9/+12 spell damage gems and watch your base SB hits and your felguard attack power to skyhigh. Hope that explains things. Last edited by Xaos; December 23, 2007 at 03:54 PM.. |
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Alhazred 80 Undead Warlock The Venture Co Euro RP PvP Guild: Ordo Templi Orientis Talent Spec: 53/11/7 |
Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
Thanks. How bout a PvP perspective?
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Desercratior 64 Undead Warlock The Venture Co Euro RP PvP Guild: Neighbourhorde Watch Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
Very nice guide, PvP perspective would be awesome! ^^ |
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Panaceia 80 Blood Elf Priest Cho'gall US PvP Guild: Inebriated Raiding Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 14/57/0 |
Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
Nice guide ![]() I'll have to keep this in mind if I respec for the billionth time and go back to demo
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Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
Some replies moved to Demo raiding... why? - The Warlocks Den Forums Xaos, thank you for sharing this with us all.
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Abstract 70 Blood Elf Warlock Neptulon Euro PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 27/34/0 |
Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
a PvP guide is pretty easy imho.. get S3 items in all slots and vindicators rest.. gem it with yellow +10 res, blue +12 sta ogr my favorite green +4res & +6sta. there ya go :P |
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Xaos 70 Undead Warlock Defias Brotherhood Euro RP PvP Guild: Last Stand Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40 |
Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
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![]() and sorry i didnt post it here in the first place (silly me) I'll update it with more pre raid loot soon, but with the PvP season one now costing honor, that pritty much overshadows most of the actual pve pre-raid loot. so im tempted to say if your pre-raid farm S1+S1 weapon. I dont really PvP enough to write a detailed pvp guide yet (only got 2xS3), but ill put up some pointers soon. Last edited by Xaos; December 31, 2007 at 09:02 AM.. |
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Re: PvE Demonology "Shopping List"
you said there was no decent back untill TK/MH, but Ruby drape of the mysticant that drops of Princ Malchezaar is by far one of the best untill you hit TK/MH. And if you need +spell hit then the ruby drape beats the one that drops from kael. |
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