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Old January 08, 2009, 12:35 PM  

Warlock Raiding Guide for WOTLK

Fallenman and Clearly's Guide to BC Raiding as a Warlock

The purpose of this guide is to help the warlock community with the ins and outs of raiding in The Wrath of the Lich King expansion. Much of the information here is a collaboration of information that is found throughout these forums, as well as several others. Credit is certainly due to Elitist Jerks forums (Elitist Jerks) and The Warlock's Den (Click here to read the entire guide
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Old January 11, 2009, 02:09 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Great job! I would like to add one thing regarding consumables. As a destro lock I keep stacks of flame caps on hand. It increases your fire spell power by 80 for 1 minute! It does use your HS cool down, but in fights where I dont forsee taking that much damage I use them. Some fights you can get (2) in, but I did notice that the buff icon didnt pop up on the second use. Maybe it only allows one flame cap use per "in combat". These things are easy to farm and sell for pennies on the dollar.
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Old January 11, 2009, 04:34 AM   #11 (permalink)

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Great guide BUT i disagree with Chaotic Skyflare Diamond being best for demo / destro warlocks.

Im sure the outright damage of Emberskyflare diamond is best gem for any warlock build..1 damage > 1 crit...agree?

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Old January 11, 2009, 10:07 AM   #12 (permalink)

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It's the 3% crit bonus that makes the CSD so great. With ruin, that bonus works out to 9% more damage on each crit actually.
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Old January 11, 2009, 11:28 AM   #13 (permalink)

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Guild: Les templiers du chaos
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
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great guide, very helpfull to link your guide to the warlock roster of my guilde ^^. However I think you should'nt assume affli>destro>demono/destro cause except for affliction which is recognized as the currently best dps build on patchwerk there is no clear proof for others.
Some say it's destro some, 0/41/30 with fg,0/41/30 with imp,0/31/40,...
As I don't think that the goal of this guide is to decide which is the best you should instead link some thread with in-dep discussion about those build.
What do you think about it ?
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Old January 11, 2009, 05:31 PM   #14 (permalink)

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great guide, very helpfull to link your guide to the warlock roster of my guilde ^^. However I think you should'nt assume affli>destro>demono/destro cause except for affliction which is recognized as the currently best dps build on patchwerk there is no clear proof for others.
Some say it's destro some, 0/41/30 with fg,0/41/30 with imp,0/31/40,...
As I don't think that the goal of this guide is to decide which is the best you should instead link some thread with in-dep discussion about those build.
What do you think about it ?
I can't say that I agree. I have personally seen WWS parses showing there is a clear advantage to chaos bolt and affliction builds in terms of "top dps". And, I would be remiss if I didn't mention what the maximum possible performance was of each spec. For warlocks looking to get the best performance they can, they'll want to know which specs can provide them with the best. Once they learn a spec, their dps will continue to go up with their gear, and so on.
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Old January 11, 2009, 06:24 PM   #15 (permalink)

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Guild: Blackout
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
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Great guide Fallen!

one thing i noticed is that you have bc instead of Wrath of the Lich King at the start.

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Old January 11, 2009, 08:06 PM   #16 (permalink)

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Old January 12, 2009, 09:46 AM   #17 (permalink)

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It's the 3% crit bonus that makes the CSD so great. With ruin, that bonus works out to 9% more damage on each crit actually.

Im must be missing something..

ESF - http://www.wowhead.com/?item=41333

CSD - Chaotic Skyflare Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft

Ruin - Ruin - Spell - World of Warcraft

So i dont get how its 9% extra with each crit? Also the dps increase per crit may seem great but what about the dps lost from having to equip 2 blue gems instead of red and losing overall spell power? Be curious to read a write up on this.

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Old January 12, 2009, 10:36 AM   #18 (permalink)

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Awesome info compilation! Thanks for putting this together.
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Old January 12, 2009, 10:48 AM   #19 (permalink)

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Im must be missing something..

ESF - Ember Skyflare Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft

CSD - Chaotic Skyflare Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft

Ruin - Ruin - Spell - World of Warcraft

So i dont get how its 9% extra with each crit? Also the dps increase per crit may seem great but what about the dps lost from having to equip 2 blue gems instead of red and losing overall spell power? Be curious to read a write up on this.

S_W
You can have haste/spirit for blue gems. blue gems are no longer crappy. :p

Also, it's 9% more damage with ruin. ;)

150% x 0.03 =4.5% + 50% = 54.5% x2 = 109% +100% = 209%
Or: x2.09
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