PVP Vs Undead Priest - How??

[SparkiUK]

I'm currently lvl64 affliction warlock, with +400dmg but have a real hard time in dueling undead priests, or pvping any priest for that matter. They seem immune to fear so how do i beat them. I usually have imp out for drain tanking and so in pvp or duels i start with death coil, fear, dot dot drain life, fear etc dead, normally. But against priest, if immune to fear what can i do, they have me running all over the place, they shield and i'm dead. Even got tanked by a lvl60 today. Help and advise much appreciated.

[Lasheron]

Priests hate felhunter!

- I'm assuming they are shadow priests
When ya duel put the Felpuppys Devour Magic on auto cast, and turn off slience. Make a macro to cast silence and use that when they try casting a shadow spell like Mind flay/blast, fears are going to be hard to get off but are still worth doing to interupt them.

Never begin with deathcoil. you get a small heal from that spell.

I would start with a shadow ward and fear x2 followed by silence when they use Will of the Forsaken

[postalpanzer]

I would say the felhunter also use a spellstone. The felhunter will remove his stamina buff and his inner fire armor buff I am not sure if it will remove HOT effect though. Also if you are a blood elf use your racial abilities too taking a little mana from him and getting an extra counter spell just to stop that last heal he needs to get off to survive. Once a priest is out of mana he is toasty. Also warlocks have a spell that absorbs shadow damage that helps alot too.

[Stanis]

That's not an easy fight, you have to use the felhunter instead of the imp, use your shadow ward, use the spellstone and remember that generally , priests use their shadow resistance buff, which let them mitigate the damage from your dots and sometimes resist DC.
That mean, instead of SB try to use immolate/incinerate.
If it's an undead, use DC to heal yourself. If you don't get the message 'immune' try to fear...(they may use their racial thingy and if the fight is a long one, you may actually fear an undead once that fade)
And since they don't melee, you can use drain life/mana even without the talent to avoid being interrupted.
Those are some ideas, based on your build you can make your own strategy.

-Stanis

[digimanbyte_ID]

Drain mana, it will cripple them, just dot them up and drain mana, in no time they will be at your mercy

[Pernicious]

Ok, Felhound on the SP at all times,

Use Shadow Ward,

Use your trinket,

Use a Spell Stone to drop all the dots you accumulate.

Shouldn't be too hard even if they do break your fears.
Just wait a few sec and re-fear.

Keep the SP fully dotted at all times and SBolt them to death.

Remember They're shadow priests, but we're bloody warlocks!!! We invented the art of shadow spells!!! Show them wanna be locks how its done!

[zoli]

Also CoT very important! In fact, you should start the fight with CoT, send in felpup with devour autocast, shadow ward, after that UA!!! (prevents priest funny busyness), then normal dots SifL, Corr, Imolate. And of course in the time you do this, watch he's castbar and when you see something loading (should be easy with CoT on)-> hit the spell lock, and then load a SB, drain if you feel like it, or spam SP. Normally you will not need to use DC or fear or Ihot.

[Mcgoo]

There is an unusual apprehension towards SP's but the hard fact is, they are basically at our mercy. I have taken SP's above me, and you can check me in armory, I have nothing special. Its knowing weaknesses. Shadow priests in shadowform ONLY do shadow damage.. use a pot, use spellstone to remove dots, and use fire (immolate/confl/incen/soulfire). All those mean bad days for SP's. If you are super pumped on shadow damage, dish it out.

With imp, its important to not use him for anything but mana, as anything more will put him out to be attacked, and even a gimped SP will knock that HUGE stamina buff off you with that in NO time. I don't know if you thought of this, but Demon armor has an innate health regen and shadow resistance. So make sure to use that.. If affliction always lead with corruption/UA.. If its a shadow priest I usually do CoShadows to open them up more to my damage.. if the priest is almost gone and you see him start to heal don't be afraid to swap curses and go with tongues.. a slow casting heal can mean you win!

All in all, they #1 aren't immune to fear.. You can get around those things easily enough with patience and gameplay. DC is what I use to stop heals usually, and someone said use your trinket.. Thats really key, with a spellstone a +crit/+damage trinket can mean you walk away and he has to wait for the spirit to bring him back.
#2 Pray on his weaknesses. Biggest problem with SP is mana.. if his damage isn't hurting you at the rate yours is him, drain mana. If he's doing more to you than the other way around, drain life to keep you in the game. I'm no expert by any means, but I also have never lost to a SP (well once at 61 when he was 69, but seriously)

[Janchet]

Looking at all these posts I can name a bunch of counters to your attacks. I play a 70 Undead Shadow Priest and I kill warlocks easily.

#1 If you have imp out for mana then:
a) I can't be silenced.
b) I keep my buffs.
c) you don't have some extra dps. Don't try to dps with an imp as well. Mind Blast + SW:Death is an easy 3000-4000 damage. The imp dies and you lose your extra dps and stamina buff.
Yes you would have more mana and HP at the end but duels usually don't last that long to use that much mana and that extra HP last about 6 seconds in dots.

#2 If you have the Felhunter out:
a) I fear it. It sometimes resists but I usually put up with its dps. Although it is very annoying so this is what you should be using with the Felhunter's abilities.

#3 If you try to use fire/Shadow Bolt:
Silence .... I've only played a warlock up to 48 but I'm pretty sure there are no instant casts for fire spells. This is a problem for you because while my shadow fiend is slowing your casting time, I'm just waiting until you are about to use your immolate/SB or whatever and silence you. You have just lost about 6 seconds which equates to 2000~2500 damage or so in dots.

#4 If you use Shadow Ward I dispel it. If you use Fel armor or demon armor I dispel it. Sure it takes up 3 seconds for my but you lost some of your armor/shadow protection so it works for me.

#5 Spell stone ... I haven't experimented much with it but it only takes off MAGICAL effect correct? Then Devouring Plague will not be affected because it is classified as a disease. Its still a very nice counter to my dots. Re-applying them is a cake but it wastes my mana which is your goal. Not many warlocks I face use it. Its just sitting in the back of their spell books.

#6 Fears:
a) Will of the Forsaken, Insignia of the Horde, 70 shadow resistance. It is a bit hard to fear. However, like people have been saying, it is worthwhile if you get it off. I have fear too which I generally use early on. It is only on a 23 second cooldown because I have arena set #3 Gloves ... the only PvP armor I have. =( Pain for anybody to get feared and warlocks and priests are no exceptions. Oh and Priest have fear ward now so your first fear is null unless your felhunter takes it off early on. Deathcoil doesn't count as a fear so use it when I am casting/healing.

#7 Drain Mana/Life:
No ... just no. Most pointless thing ever when your dueling a Shadow Priest because your dots are going to be dispelled which you have to constantly reapply unless you are using Unstable Affliction ... in that case I silence you or fear you for it.

I think that covers most of it ... HEALTHSTONES! Those annoying little health potions! It usually gives me a false sense of security if you have one and use it. My finishing move for almost any battle is Mind Blast and SW:Death which is the final dps needed to kill. It sometimes happens that I kill myself with SW:Death. My personal problem but use your healthstones.

Basically it comes down to raw skill. Can you out-think your opponent, thinking of your upcoming Cooldowns coming off, when to use those cooldowns, what curse is best for the situation, when to use fear, when to use your pet's silence, and all that good stuff. It comes down to how well you play your class and trying to predict what will happen next. This is why I love Warlocks and Shadow Priests. I need to think more than to spam frost bolt or sinister strike (DAM YOU TO HELL YOU CHEAP BASTARD ROGUES!). Well I'm open to criticism and counters to my counters or if some of my logic was faulty/unclear. Have dueling!

[neej]

Hmm, strange Shadow Priest were the least of my problems, with mages I think. UA/SB, SL/SL and felguard, I always found it very simple. Send pet, (Amp'ed) Curse of Agony, live thru the silence, trinket the fear, Drain life, Reapply Curse of Agony, Shadowburn/NF proc. Silence (FH) when they melt my face, Shadow Ward (how do you deal damage while dispelling that?)...