Possible to improve this spell rotation?

Gnomenicron · December 13, 2007, 02:32 PM

Well i'm an Affliction lock. 41/0/20. And i was simply wondering if the esteemed 'locks on this board had anything to teach :P

My current raiding spell rotation is as follows:-

Curse of <Whatever i'm using>
UA while chain casting Corruption immediately
Immo while chain casting Siphon Life again immediately.

I then refresh Immo after the Siphon Life (30secs) duration ends and also Siphon Life at the same time.

From what i can remember, i can have the 4 ticking dots on when UA has hit 15 secs. In between then it's just SB and refresh when they run out etc. Standard fare.

Of course, trinkets before refreshing if it's up and normal stuff.

A few notes on my gear as i can tell you'll check my armory (if the link is there and working >_>).
I'm currently crafting the FSW robe. Going for Netherspite's Uni-Mind Headdress when i can and grabbing a cloak and bracers from Maiden and Moroes.

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&n=Gnomenicron

Warlorc · December 18, 2007, 12:08 AM

I look at Siphon Life as my numero uno dot to cast personally, look at it... it needs 30 seconds for full efficiency, it needs time, it wants time, it's begging you for time, AND it's healing you... I cast it first always and forever, some locks will tell you different, I tell you to go with your feelings... SL LOVES you, and feeds you accordingly. I then take a CD hit and go with a curse, then corruption/IMMO(they'll finish at same time) UA follows then go to town with SB and renewing the dots as they come undone, it's kind of fun to pay attention imo, actually helps me focus on what I'm casting next.

Rizob · December 18, 2007, 05:31 AM

There is no "cast rotation" for Warlocks due to variance in DoT duration.

jimmykins · December 19, 2007, 04:44 PM

Here's my spell sequence on bosses:
Ampliy/Trinket
Curse of Doom
Unstable Affliction
Corruption
Siphon Life
Immolate
Bolt / Bolt /Bolt

With this set up UA, Cor and Imm all finish at an interval which allows you to lose no cast time. All 3 of those spells are refreshed right after their last tick. Every other sequence I refresh Siphon. When I'm not refreshing, spam Bolt while popping trinkets.

Agnar · December 19, 2007, 05:06 PM

If Siphon life is your first cast and you are at full health then you really dont get any benefit from it you have just wasted tick time on your other dots

Turmeric · December 20, 2007, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warlorc

...then corruption/IMMO(they'll finish at same time)

This exactly what you want to avoid to be honest. 2 dots ending together means 1 global cooldown when neither is doing damage. The only exception is UA and Corr, which due to UA's castime can be chained together.

badkarma138 · December 20, 2007, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnomenicron

Curse of <Whatever i'm using>
UA while chain casting Corruption immediately
Immo while chain casting Siphon Life again immediately.

I then refresh Immo after the Siphon Life (30secs) duration ends and also Siphon Life at the same time.

refresh your dots as soon as they expire. by not refreshing ASAP, you are losing DPS. for example, dont wait for sili to finish before recasting immolate because thats almost a full immo that you are losing.

the opposite is true also. dont refresh a dot if it has not expired yet.

Warpy · December 20, 2007, 10:52 AM

You aren't casting all of your DoTs on most trash, are you?

MrUnderpants · December 20, 2007, 01:54 PM

Yea only cast like corruption and UA on the mob right as the tank gets agro on trash....then SB SB SB til dead...typically trash dies so fast that most of the dots havent run their first course and thats a waste of damage that SBs can make up. I used to cast Corruption, agony and immolate on trash.....big mistake...read up here and spoke with the other lock i typically raid with and he said to do what i just posted. Good advice as he is almost always #1 on the meter.

Gnomenicron · December 20, 2007, 03:53 PM

Okay i get the thing about the missed GCD from dots ending at once, and when did i mention placing all my dots on trash? ..Thought it was implied to be a boss rotation.

Anyways thanks for the pointers. Some of it was old knowledge some new :P Thanks again.

Gnome

Anyways, also forgot to mention that i'm usually about 3rd or higher in 25 mans for dps, just that with a Salv + the 10% talented threat reduction i've usually got enough of a threat gap with the tank to think that i could improve my dps a bit more. Perhaps it's just needing more gear or that my guild tanks rock insanely but thanks for the few new pointers :P

December 13, 2007, 02:32 PM	#1 (permalink)
Gnomenicron Registered Character Info Gnomenicron 70 Gnome Warlock Alonsus Euro PvE Guild: Cry Havoc Talent Spec: 41/0/20	Possible to improve this spell rotation? Well i'm an Affliction lock. 41/0/20. And i was simply wondering if the esteemed 'locks on this board had anything to teach :P My current raiding spell rotation is as follows:- Curse of <Whatever i'm using> UA while chain casting Corruption immediately Immo while chain casting Siphon Life again immediately. I then refresh Immo after the Siphon Life (30secs) duration ends and also Siphon Life at the same time. From what i can remember, i can have the 4 ticking dots on when UA has hit 15 secs. In between then it's just SB and refresh when they run out etc. Standard fare. Of course, trinkets before refreshing if it's up and normal stuff. A few notes on my gear as i can tell you'll check my armory (if the link is there and working >_>). I'm currently crafting the FSW robe. Going for Netherspite's Uni-Mind Headdress when i can and grabbing a cloak and bracers from Maiden and Moroes. http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&n=Gnomenicron Last edited by Gnomenicron; December 13, 2007 at 02:34 PM. Reason: adding link to armory

December 18, 2007, 12:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
Warlorc Lurker Character Info Warlorc 70 Orc Warlock Nathrezim US PvP Guild: Phaze Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 24/37/0	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? I look at Siphon Life as my numero uno dot to cast personally, look at it... it needs 30 seconds for full efficiency, it needs time, it wants time, it's begging you for time, AND it's healing you... I cast it first always and forever, some locks will tell you different, I tell you to go with your feelings... SL LOVES you, and feeds you accordingly. I then take a CD hit and go with a curse, then corruption/IMMO(they'll finish at same time) UA follows then go to town with SB and renewing the dots as they come undone, it's kind of fun to pay attention imo, actually helps me focus on what I'm casting next.

December 18, 2007, 05:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rizob Member Character Info Rizob 70 Gnome Warlock US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? There is no "cast rotation" for Warlocks due to variance in DoT duration.

December 19, 2007, 04:44 PM	#4 (permalink)
jimmykins Lurker Character Info Jimmykins 70 Gnome Warlock Chromaggus US PvP Guild: The Insurrection Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? Here's my spell sequence on bosses: Ampliy/Trinket Curse of Doom Unstable Affliction Corruption Siphon Life Immolate Bolt / Bolt /Bolt With this set up UA, Cor and Imm all finish at an interval which allows you to lose no cast time. All 3 of those spells are refreshed right after their last tick. Every other sequence I refresh Siphon. When I'm not refreshing, spam Bolt while popping trinkets.

December 19, 2007, 05:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
Agnar Lurker Character Info Agnar 70 Human Warlock Fenris US PvE	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? If Siphon life is your first cast and you are at full health then you really dont get any benefit from it you have just wasted tick time on your other dots

December 20, 2007, 10:52 AM	#8 (permalink)
Warpy Blog updated Mondays Character Info Warpy 70 Human Warlock Kul Tiras US PvE Guild: The Phoenix Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Changing	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? You aren't casting all of your DoTs on most trash, are you?

December 20, 2007, 01:54 PM	#9 (permalink)
MrUnderpants Member Character Info Evilundrpnts 70 Gnome Warlock Uther US PvE Guild: Uthers Legion Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 43/7/11	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? Yea only cast like corruption and UA on the mob right as the tank gets agro on trash....then SB SB SB til dead...typically trash dies so fast that most of the dots havent run their first course and thats a waste of damage that SBs can make up. I used to cast Corruption, agony and immolate on trash.....big mistake...read up here and spoke with the other lock i typically raid with and he said to do what i just posted. Good advice as he is almost always #1 on the meter.

December 20, 2007, 03:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gnomenicron Registered Character Info Gnomenicron 70 Gnome Warlock Alonsus Euro PvE Guild: Cry Havoc Talent Spec: 41/0/20	Re: Possible to improve this spell rotation? Okay i get the thing about the missed GCD from dots ending at once, and when did i mention placing all my dots on trash? ..Thought it was implied to be a boss rotation. Anyways thanks for the pointers. Some of it was old knowledge some new :P Thanks again. Gnome Anyways, also forgot to mention that i'm usually about 3rd or higher in 25 mans for dps, just that with a Salv + the 10% talented threat reduction i've usually got enough of a threat gap with the tank to think that i could improve my dps a bit more. Perhaps it's just needing more gear or that my guild tanks rock insanely but thanks for the few new pointers :P Last edited by Gnomenicron; December 20, 2007 at 03:57 PM. Reason: adding extra