Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior

Rigo · August 12, 2008, 05:44 AM

I am just starting to seriously consider pumping out Brilliant Wizard Oil for me an other crit casters in the Guild for Raiding (T5/T6 Content atm).

Brilliant Wizard Oil
Requires Level 45Use: While applied to target weapon it increases spell damage by up to 36 and increases spell critical strike rating by 14. Lasts for 1 hour.

Vs

Superior Wizard Oil
Requires Level 58Use: While applied to target weapon it increases spell damage by up to 42. Lasts for 1 hour.

Ignoring the costs/grinding mats issue (well pre wotlc lots of raiders have plenty money for consumables as they have capped all badge gear and gems - and are just selling gems/vortexs from Badges for money)

Ok so down to business - 6 less damage vs 14 crit rating?

For crit casters (demo / destr locks) who are past Kara this has to be better imho due to the crit bonus for bane/ruin spec locks.

Don't think it is in the leur spreadsheet so I cant theorycraft it.

TBH I forgot I had the recipe (ZG rep reward old school) until I ran scholo with some lower level guildies and ended up with 14 Shards.

With 2 or 3 level 70's I think you could clear most of scholo in an hour = 7 pots = 35 charges.

What do people think? worth the effort for improved raiding dps?

Wristy · August 12, 2008, 06:10 AM

my guess would be that for Destro locks the Brilliant Oil would be great but i keep looking for this on the AH on my server (Khaz Modan - US) and haven't had any luck finding any.. my guess is no1 can be bothered grinding ZG rep any more but i'd gladly sacrifice 6 spell damage for the 14 crit..

Badas · August 12, 2008, 06:13 AM

Definitely the Extra crit for progression runs. I use the Superior for heroics and day to day stuff.

Nimpimpy · August 12, 2008, 06:16 AM

/looks left
/looks right
/wonders why theleb hasn't told you this has been covered in other threads....

Brill>Superior for Destro.

Malevevely · August 12, 2008, 07:13 AM

Brilliant is better then superior for nearly every build it is simply more expensive/harder to make. There are numerous threads about this and it is in the spreadsheet under the buffs section.

Theleb · August 12, 2008, 07:55 AM

Yes its been covered in other threads

(and it is in the spreadsheet, check under buffs).

Brilliant is 6-7dps better. Might not sound like much but every little helps and thats without placing a value on the slight improvement to ISB Uptime. For more info on consumables (ignore the comment at the end) this is a good guide:

Warlock Consumables Guide - The Warlocks Den Forums

Rigo · August 14, 2008, 06:17 AM

Guess I'm blind...I did run a search for wizard oil on the forums but could not find anything...probably not doing it right...

Well all I can say is TY for conclusive and speedy response all, I'm letter all the major crit caster dps know about this - looks like we will have a weekly clear out of Scholo for shards

August 12, 2008, 05:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
Rigo Member Character Info Rigo 70 Human Warlock Dragonblight EU Euro PvE Guild: Dragonsbane Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 5/10/46	Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior I am just starting to seriously consider pumping out Brilliant Wizard Oil for me an other crit casters in the Guild for Raiding (T5/T6 Content atm). Brilliant Wizard Oil Requires Level 45Use: While applied to target weapon it increases spell damage by up to 36 and increases spell critical strike rating by 14. Lasts for 1 hour. Vs Superior Wizard Oil Requires Level 58Use: While applied to target weapon it increases spell damage by up to 42. Lasts for 1 hour. Ignoring the costs/grinding mats issue (well pre wotlc lots of raiders have plenty money for consumables as they have capped all badge gear and gems - and are just selling gems/vortexs from Badges for money) Ok so down to business - 6 less damage vs 14 crit rating? For crit casters (demo / destr locks) who are past Kara this has to be better imho due to the crit bonus for bane/ruin spec locks. Don't think it is in the leur spreadsheet so I cant theorycraft it. TBH I forgot I had the recipe (ZG rep reward old school) until I ran scholo with some lower level guildies and ended up with 14 Shards. With 2 or 3 level 70's I think you could clear most of scholo in an hour = 7 pots = 35 charges. What do people think? worth the effort for improved raiding dps?

August 12, 2008, 06:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
Wristy Registered Character Info Wristy 70 Gnome Warlock Khaz Modan US PvE Guild: Shadow Warlords Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior my guess would be that for Destro locks the Brilliant Oil would be great but i keep looking for this on the AH on my server (Khaz Modan - US) and haven't had any luck finding any.. my guess is no1 can be bothered grinding ZG rep any more but i'd gladly sacrifice 6 spell damage for the 14 crit..

August 12, 2008, 06:13 AM	#3 (permalink)
Badas Lurker Character Info Badas 70 Human Warlock Proudmoore US PvE Guild: Tranquility Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior Definitely the Extra crit for progression runs. I use the Superior for heroics and day to day stuff.

August 12, 2008, 06:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
Nimpimpy Member Character Info Zandoros 70 Blood Elf Warlock Outland Euro PvP Guild: Elysium Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior /looks left /looks right /wonders why theleb hasn't told you this has been covered in other threads.... Brill>Superior for Destro.

August 12, 2008, 07:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Malevevely Member Character Info Malevevely 70 Undead Warlock KJ US PvP	Re: Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior Brilliant is better then superior for nearly every build it is simply more expensive/harder to make. There are numerous threads about this and it is in the spreadsheet under the buffs section.

August 12, 2008, 07:55 AM	#6 (permalink)
Theleb Moderator Character Info Theleb 70 Human Warlock Shadowsong Euro PvE Guild: Original Talent Spec: 0/46/15	Re: Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior Yes its been covered in other threads (and it is in the spreadsheet, check under buffs). Brilliant is 6-7dps better. Might not sound like much but every little helps and thats without placing a value on the slight improvement to ISB Uptime. For more info on consumables (ignore the comment at the end) this is a good guide: Warlock Consumables Guide - The Warlocks Den Forums

August 14, 2008, 06:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
Rigo Member Character Info Rigo 70 Human Warlock Dragonblight EU Euro PvE Guild: Dragonsbane Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 5/10/46	Re: Brilliant Wizard Oil Vs Superior Guess I'm blind...I did run a search for wizard oil on the forums but could not find anything...probably not doing it right... Well all I can say is TY for conclusive and speedy response all, I'm letter all the major crit caster dps know about this - looks like we will have a weekly clear out of Scholo for shards