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Siphon Life
Requires 20 points already spent in Affliction Talents
Published by Akasha
October 23, 2008
Siphon Life

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Siphon Life". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Siphon Life. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Affliction, Tier 5
Requires: 20 points already spent in Affliction Talents
Transfers health from the target to yourself.

Ranks:
Rank 1: Transfers 15 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 2 (Level 38 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 22 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 3 (Level 48 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 33 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 4 (Level 58 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 45 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 5 (Level 63 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 52 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 6 (Level 70 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 63 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 7 (Level 75 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 70 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

Rank 8 (Level 80 Spell Upgrade): Transfers 81 health from the target to the caster every 3 sec. Lasts 30 sec.

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Old October 23, 2008, 08:36 AM   #1 (permalink)

Character Info
Phenix
70 Gnome Warlock
Nordrassil US PvE
Guild: By the Light
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: ?/?/?
Siphon Life

Am I reading this right? SL is 16% of base mana but Haunt is only 12%. Doesn't that basically make SL useless on mana efficiency basis? Or really on any basis.
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Old October 23, 2008, 08:37 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Xavron
80 Gnome Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Veritas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Siphon Life

Worse... Siphon Life talent (in-game, just looked) is now only 15 health every 3 seconds for 30 seconds.

WoWHead's talent calculator says that it's 81 every 3 seconds (which is modestly useful), but in-game it's screwed.
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Old October 23, 2008, 08:37 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Reubicant
70 Blood Elf Warlock
Mug'thol US PvP
Guild: Basher LLC
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Siphon Life

I'm pretty sure the in-game talent sheet shows Rank 1 effects of all new spells. 81 health transferred every 3 seconds is actually Rank 8, which requires level 80.
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Old October 23, 2008, 08:38 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Soulzar
70 Human Warlock
Medivh US PvE
Guild: Trismegistus
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Talent Spec: Destro
Siphon Life

SL was (donno bout now) one of the affliction locks highest damage per cast time spells. It beat out corruption, UA, Shadow bolt. Its longer duration is probably the reason for a slightly higher mana cost. It is the spell buffed the most by Everlasting Affliction so I dont see if falling behind with new talents and still being one of the best spells to cast.

I dont think the mana cost difference would kill its viability to be used or its status as one of the best DPCT spells in an affliciton locks rotation.

Anybody running affliction that can give me numbers from a ahunt build? We can see where SL sits in terms of damage per cast time and even mana per damage done quite easily.
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Old October 23, 2008, 08:38 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Xavron
80 Gnome Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Veritas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Siphon Life

Ah... I just had a thought. Maybe I should see whether I've trained up at the Warlock Trainer for the upper ranks of Siphon Life.

I suspect that's it... my spell book only shows Rank 1 for Siphon Life. (oops)

Ah well, that's why I came here, to figure out what I was doing wrong and whether other folks saw the same thing.
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Old October 23, 2008, 09:50 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Ciboire
70 Orc Warlock
Gorganash US PvP
Guild: Horde Nation
Talent Spec: 53/13/5
Re: Siphon Life

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Originally Posted by Phenix View Post
Am I reading this right? SL is 16% of base mana but Haunt is only 12%. Doesn't that basically make SL useless on mana efficiency basis? Or really on any basis.
Maybe, but haunt has a 12 sec CD. So when you have more than 1 mob, SL will provide more mana efficiency (I counted the health return as mana). Haunt will also improve your SL, SL become very effective for a deep affliction lock.
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