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Nightfall
Requires 15 points already spent in Affliction Talents
Published by Akasha
October 23, 2008
Nightfall

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Nightfall". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Nightfall. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Affliction, Tier 4
Requires: 15 points already spent in Affliction Talents
Gives you a chance for an instant cast Shadow Bolt!

Ranks:
Rank 1: Gives your Corruption and Drain Life spells a 2% chance to cause you to enter a Shadow Trance state after damaging the opponent. The Shadow Trance state reduces the casting time of your next Shadow Bolt spell by 100%.

Rank 2: Gives your Corruption and Drain Life spells a 4% chance to cause you to enter a Shadow Trance state after damaging the opponent. The Shadow Trance state reduces the casting time of your next Shadow Bolt spell by 100%.

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Old October 23, 2008, 11:13 AM   #1 (permalink)

Character Info
Xavron
80 Gnome Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Veritas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Re: Nightfall

For an affliction warlock, this is a pretty important talent to have. Gives you a chance to slip in an extra Shadow Bolt in your rotation.
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Old October 23, 2008, 11:28 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Garagos
80 Undead Warlock
Laughing Skull US PvP
Guild: Drums of War
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
Re: Nightfall

If you're going fairly heavy into affliction, you definitely wanna pick this one up. Having an instant SB to throw around is really nice, especially in fights where you need to move a lot. Combine this with the glyphs of corruption and SB and you'll be pretty happy. Just last night I was in scholo helping someone out and i think i had one or 2 corruptions up and i got 4 nightfall procs in a row (that was with nightfall and the glyph). Don't know what i'd do without this talent. Having Necrosis also helps make sure you don't miss when it procs, thanks to the helpful voice announcement.
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Old October 23, 2008, 12:25 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Akashy
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Kel'Thuzad US PvP
Guild: Lazerpewpewpew
Talent Spec: 0/31/40
Re: Nightfall

Pretty much agree with Garagos, must have for afflock. I run with the same 2 glyphs, which ends up giving you an 8% chance to proc. I had 3 in a row and with the lower mana cost on SB it's nice. Plus there is no reason coruption should end with haunt helping refresh it. With all the movement needed for end bosses being able to throw a bolt while running is always a nice DPS boost. Necrosis is a big help for procs, Nightfall/backlash.
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Old October 24, 2008, 03:26 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Malbabo
80 Gnome Warlock
SenŽJin US PvE
Talent Spec: 53/0/18
Re: Nightfall

Is ok, but not top of the game talent/glyph. If only it allowed to cast a shadow bolt, outside of CGD... now THAT would be awsome. Basically what it does is allow you to cast a shadow bolt in 1.5 seconds. Nothing that ubber. At least for pve. For pvp, it can make a difference in burst damage.

But definitely not a "must have".
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Old October 24, 2008, 04:30 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Plavonica
80 Undead Warlock
Darrowmere US PvP
Guild: Dragon Fire
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 57/14/0
Re: Nightfall

I love the talent, especially combined with the glyph.
It can definitely make the difference in a tight PVP battle.

I use Warlock Alert, customizing it for full-screen red demon face makes sure I never miss a single one!
Plus the custom edge-flash for low mana/health helps when you are concentrating on that would-be ganker and you start to run low.

Last edited by Plavonica; October 24, 2008 at 04:34 AM..
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Old October 24, 2008, 06:01 AM   #6 (permalink)

Re: Nightfall

Nightfall doesn't add a lot of dps in the lng run, but it's a must-have anyway, because it's FUN.

You always feel a little better when nightfall procs - even if it has no real effect on the fight, you still feel good about slipping in an extra bolt

And don't forget the new Glyph - it stacks (more or less) with Nightfall for nearly 8% proc rate.
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Old November 14, 2008, 06:37 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Krzi
80 Orc Warlock
Madoran US PvE
Guild: Evil Dead
Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: Nightfall

I changed my talents up a little after Wrath of the Lich King. I picked up this talent again and so far, after 30 min's of having it, I have yet to see it proc once. is it bugged?
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Old November 14, 2008, 09:24 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Xavron
80 Gnome Warlock
Moon Guard US RP PvE
Guild: Veritas
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Re: Nightfall

It works fine - I just wish it would proc off of UA in addition to Corruption. (So the more DoTs I toss on the target, the more possible procs I could get.)
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Old December 09, 2008, 11:30 AM   #9 (permalink)

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pomus
80 Gnome Warlock
Lightbringer Euro PvE
Guild: Seducing
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53 1 17
Re: Nightfall

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Originally Posted by XavronMG View Post
It works fine - I just wish it would proc off of UA in addition to Corruption. (So the more DoTs I toss on the target, the more possible procs I could get.)
so, do you guys think that using SL in the rotation will cause nightfall to proc more often? and if yes, is it worth it? as we know glyph of cor nightfall stacks with the talent , and you notice a very nice improvement in the proc rate.
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