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Old October 25, 2008, 09:45 PM  

Amplify Curse

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Amplify Curse". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Amplify Curse. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


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Old October 29, 2008, 04:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Aily
80 Human Warlock
Doomhammer US PvE
Guild: Arisen
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 53/1/17
Re: amp curse bugged?

I'm going to continue the agreement here of it being worthless. 0.5 seconds/fight isn't going to get you very much. I'm not sure how they see this for the 1 point = 1% dps effect.
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Old October 29, 2008, 08:49 PM   #11 (permalink)

Re: Amplify Curse

what is even crazier is that you need Amplify Curse before CoE. I don't pvp, so t doesn't hinder me any, but what is the pont of throwing one level's talent into something a pvp'er doesn't really need, nor any lock, for a decent curse.

for heaven's sake! what is amplfying abot the talent? they could have changed the name at least.
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Old November 28, 2008, 12:44 AM   #12 (permalink)

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80 Orc Warlock
Bonechewer US PvP
Guild: Tribo Habagat
Profile: WoW Rankings
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Re: Amplify Curse

just an opinion, haven't really tried it, only relying on the figures. take this scenario for example: spell rotation is Curse of Agony, SL, cor, LT, SB, drain. instead of spending 5 talent points on bane to improve your SB's CT, this can actually be compensated by just 1 talent pt in amp curse, coming up with theoretically, a similar result for less talent points.
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Old November 28, 2008, 09:19 AM   #13 (permalink)

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Wizlock
80 Human Warlock
EU-Dragonblight Euro PvE
Guild: Royal Vanguard
Talent Spec: 2/53/16
Re: Amplify Curse

Hmmm if we go to Simulationcraft and read the data from the best dps build in theory - Warlock_56_0_15 we find that Curse of Agony is best DPCT and contributes quite a bit to the fight:

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Player=Warlock_56_0_15  DPS=5581.4 (Error=+/-2.3 Range=+/-442)  DPR=18.8  RPS=297.2/233.3  (mana)
  Core Stats:  strength=59  agility=61  stamina=865  intellect=998  spirit=608  health=12416  mana=20673
  Spell Stats:  power=2200  hit=11.1%  crit=17.7%  penetration=0  haste=13.8%  mp5=91
  Attack Stats:  power=49  hit=8.8%  crit=13.2%  expertise=0.0  penetration=0  haste=13.8%
  Actions:
    corruption            Count=  2.4|117.1sec  DPE=81967|13%  DPET=58480  DPR=161.2  Miss=0.0%  Tick=2159
    curse_of_agony        Count= 10.5|26.5sec  DPE=10535| 7%  DPET=8427  DPR=29.0  Miss=0.0%  Tick=864
    drain_soul            Count=  4.6|60.9sec  DPE=62265|18%  DPET=6346  DPR=122.5  Miss=0.0%  Tick=13846
    haunt                 Count= 20.9|13.3sec  DPE=3348| 4%  DPET=2538  DPR= 7.7  Miss=0.0%  Hit=2797  CritHit=4331|4860|35.9%
    immolate              Count= 14.0|19.9sec  DPE=6576| 6%  DPET=4987  DPR=10.0  Miss=2.9%  Hit=1187  CritHit=2480|2480|33.0%  Tick=1112
    pandemic              Count= 44.9| 6.2sec  DPE=1819| 5%  DPET= inf  DPR= inf  Miss=0.0%  Hit=1819
    shadow_bolt           Count= 64.5| 4.3sec  DPE=6252|26%  DPET=3217  DPR= 9.5  Miss=3.0%  Hit=4609  CritHit=9632|10919|35.4%
    siphon_life           Count=  8.9|31.3sec  DPE=10588| 6%  DPET=7642  DPR=18.2  Miss=0.0%  Tick=1139
    unstable_affliction   Count= 17.6|15.8sec  DPE=7634| 9%  DPET=5790  DPR=14.0  Miss=0.0%  Tick=1684
   felhunter
    felhunter_melee       Count=178.7| 1.6sec  DPE= 385| 4%  DPET= 248  DPR= inf  Miss=0.2%  Hit= 395  CritHit= 790| 790|10.1%
    shadow_bite           Count= 45.5| 6.1sec  DPE= 437| 1%  DPET= 265  DPR= inf  Miss=0.2%  Hit= 449  CritHit= 898| 953|10.0%
Spending the single talent point in Amplify Curse will in the Simulationcraft example give us 5 seconds extra to do other dps spells ie 2 extra Shadow Bolts.

Sure it depends where you steal that talent point from - if you arent hit capped you should rather put talent points in Cataclysm.

Later on when all Warlocks are hit capped this talent will improve dps in boss fights where you can have Curse of Agony in your spell rotation (ie when youre not needing to do CoE).
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