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April 20, 2009, 03:24 PM
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Gnochi 80 Gnome Warlock Thorium Brotherhood US RP Guild: Seraphim Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: I HATE guild drama
Wow, it's been a while since I looked in here. I've ported my tank over to Corm's server, and that's working out really well so far. My lock's sticking with my friends on TB. @Carlinda, another thing I've noticed is that I usually have twice the repair bill of anyone else in the raid--I need to spend TWICE as much time doing dailies or whatever to break even >.< @Dakotarick, I'll look you up when I get on my lock. I'm fairly sure I've run with you before, though. Does Verdthandi ring a bell?
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June 06, 2009, 01:49 PM
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Re: I HATE guild drama
ok so I dont like bumping things normally, but i need a vent about guild drama. (perfect place to do it I guess...). I've been in a number of guilds and now and somehow always manage to become an officer/class leader of some form. I dont go demandfing to be made one, (as a lot of people I have been in a guild with have), ive just ended up making friends over vent etc. now The first gripe I've got is witht he guild leader of one fo the first guilds I was in, when I was levelling. He had advertised this to me as a levelling guild and invited me to it after we pugged some instance, i forghet which now, but thats unimportant. He was a mage. I was a noob-lock. Could it be any more obvious? (ouch, i knw its bad but I couldnt help myself). He then came to an instance with me and few of my RL mates who were levelling some alts. It soon became apparent he was a bit rubbish (having never rolled mage I had no idea). Bit of background for you their. So this levelling guild he started. It wasnt so much a levelling guild as a method for looking like you belonged to something. People would ask for help with an instance or quest or something and all hed do is tell them to do it themselves. Id try to help best I could but it got a little much. Then the GL hit 80. He announced that everyone had to hit 80 in the next 2 weeks or they would be kicked since he wanted to make it a raiding guild. WTF!?!?!? (most were like level 20 or summat) So I instigated a coup and most of us promptly left. I started my own with them for about a month, but got fed up being a GL and passed theat priviledge on to another and bid my farewells. Still keep in contact with a lot. Now, more recently I joined another guild, this time quite pleasant. The GL was a good laugh, the regulars were (mostly) nice and chilled and relaxed. The guild was primarily for those who had recently hit 80 lookin to get some gear ready for the harder raids. aaaah! nice. Then I encountered a chap called Bricky. Now he is a really good paladin. Excellent geared, excellent at the game. But a grade A <insert expletive here>. As an example we wiped on Gluth 10 man, andf he and another started threatenign to kill people, shouting and swearing at everyone. This really annoyed me. If your so well geared why join a guild to help people gear, if you intend to not wipe. Many people in this guild were new to naxx completely and some were put off for a whuile. This paladin left the guild after that after an argument with me. The GL also decided hed had enough and went to antoher guild, passing GL to a friend of ours, although half the guild went with him as he was very popular. We stayed in contact and hed help us with raids if we were short a couple of people etc. We occasionally asked if he was coming back. And he eventually did. But he brought bricky with him. That was it for me. First thing the paladin did was order to be an officer. He was made one and then promptly started kicking anyone he deemed not geared enough. So me, the new GL and a few others left to join my RL mates guild, which we all agree is brilliant. And as we each left we passed GL to each other and kicked Bricky from the guild as we each left, each person waiting for him to be reinvited. Probably a little dramatci but hey. Sorry for my rant. Good to get that off my chest. lol |
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June 17, 2009, 01:38 PM
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Re: I HATE guild drama
I gotta get in on this. I joined a guild thanks to my friends when I got to 70. We did a few KZ's, I re-rolled and they took my warlock in. The guild merged with another so we could start SSC/TK which I didn't get into. I worked hard on learning to play and gearing myself up through heroics/tailoring. Wrath of the Lich King had a due date, the nerf came where there was no requirement for MH and BT. So I did MH numerous times and started the first few bosses in BT when Wrath of the Lich King was gonna come out so to have fun we decided to do AQ40. That glitched out on us so we decided hey why not try some trash in Sunwell. It seemed like we were just doing a nice relaxing fun run and we died several times in Sunwell because no one knew what we were doing. My friend and I were whispering back and forth and having fun. We got to one part where we were having trouble with some part and it took us, 15 - 20 min each set up after we all ran back. I took the time to climb up on a nearby bench and /sleep while we sat up and they were complaining about who to pull first then we got started and by each time I barely had any time to pew the mob before it got back to the grp so I waited till the entire mob pull was there before I pew pew'd and all of the sudden I get a whisper from one of the officers that I need to be a part of this or get out. Whoa. Whoa buddy. I had been irritated with some things about the guild before then and now this officer wanted to be a asshole about this "fun" run. We got to the boss, wiped 5x and called it quits and so did I. I posted on their forum that if this was going to be the way officers wanted to act then I'm done this isn't casual it's crap. I mentioned no names and I never went back to the forum and my friend said it was halarious that the officer got all uppity and wrote a bunch of crap. You know what, it's just a game. That was nice to experience because ever since then I've taken the game real light heartedly and I don't let stupid stuff bother me and I don't raid as much because I don't want to be in a guild were that was gonna be the thing. If I had no life and I was in a pure raid guild like a No. 1 - 5 on the server guild well yeah maybe. I'm not. I play for fun, in my free time and like to do as much as possible. A follow up, my friends quit a few weeks later saying it only got worse and I checked up on the guild now in Wrath of the Lich King and that officer and all his friends (some were RL) have all left the guild to start their own. Seems the GM got tired of them too :-p |
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June 17, 2009, 01:44 PM
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Re: I HATE guild drama
This crap happens all the time; i am lucky enough to be in a casual guild that does stuff for fun and don't take the game TOO serious. i honestly have no desire to be in a top raiding guild, i know they are tough and require you to do a lot and that is just something i can't do, i work and have college classes, i play little enough the way it is. at some point i would like to get into a good PVP guild, but if they are going to act like a bunch of teenage girls then i don't want any part of it, i would rather join a PUG group/team
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June 17, 2009, 02:23 PM
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Zebula 80 Undead Warlock Drak'Tharon US PvP |
Re: I HATE guild drama
Yeah I have now been part of two guilds, one moved servers and I went with them in a free move. Then they up and left and went back about a month later. Then I joined a guild and we were doing great gearing people up in naxx25. Another guild joined into ours so that we no longer had to pug any spots at all (or max 1 or 2). After two weeks when we were about to head into ulduar25 the guild basically split in half over a weekend when I didn't play. I came back and tried to make it work, while quietly looking for another guild because I kinda guessed this next step was going to happen. The guild leader ninja'd the bank, passed leadership to someone else, then transferred servers and switched names. Suddenly we were back to naxx10 runs, fail ulduar10 runs and pugged naxx25 runs. So I left. All the people I liked in the guild had been the people that split initially but I didn't go an join them because I prefer 25man raiding and they could only pull together 10 and they really didn't need another lock. I found a good guild on my server that needed locks desperately, applied and boom here I am, finally clearing some ulduar25 that I have been ready for for over a month. |
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July 10, 2009, 05:10 AM
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Re: I HATE guild drama
The last guild I was in...I just couldn't get along with. The big problem was, of course, the leadership. All of the officers(and a select few non-officers that go way back with them) are in the "Inner Circle". They can be the nicest, most friendly people you would ever get to know, THAT IS, unless you are in their "Inner Circle". When I joined with them, I befriended 3 non-circle guildies. They ended up leaving the guild when they got treated like dirt over a dungeon/raiding issue. Sure enough, I got the same treatment. When I'm in the game, I'm not a person who discloses my whole and true personality to people in WoW. I would tell them a few things but there are some things personal that you don't share. The "Inner Circle" does this all the time and it was severely annoying. All the officers sleep in the same bed at night, so-to-speak. So eventually, I lost my patience with it all and left the guild. My advice for looking for a good guild is finding one that doesn't put REAL LIFE into it, that all members regardless of guild rank are treated with respect, and that the officers have a proper relationship amongst each other, whether or not they know each other in RL. |
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July 10, 2009, 07:08 AM
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Myuri 80 Human Warlock Alonsus Euro PvE Guild: Fun Loving Wowers Talent Spec: 0/20/51 |
Re: I HATE guild drama
I see this kind of posts every time and they only make me love my guild even more. I've been around on some guilds and yea they were crap. But ever since i joined my current one this kind of things just don't happen. We are fairly big, around 500 members, and we have a raid almost every night. We are pretty laid back and are constantly joking but when shit is going down, no one jokes and we follow our boss to our deaths if needed. That's what keeps it together. Boss's word is law, period. Terms of the raid are well explained before hand and everyone there agreed so there is no room for whining. I do feel for you man, i know how things can get crazy but don't loose faith. Just leave those loosers and find yourself a decent guild. They do exist, trust me 
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July 10, 2009, 09:45 AM
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Re: I HATE guild drama
Damned guilds, everyone's pugging these days. Better off without Guilds, all they do is Take half your shit, then shit on you. -.-
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July 10, 2009, 10:31 AM
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Re: I HATE guild drama
i dropped my guild the other day and i am enjoying being solo. i have had a few people ask me to join a guild but i would rather put up with a few invites rather than having to endure a badly managed guild. the good thing is i don't have to put up with all the crap that comes with a guild, i don't have time at the moment to be running an instance every time i log in and i am really into PVP now but can't find a PVP guild so why bother being in a guild. i thought about starting my own just for the bank then i thought about actually starting my own to run in PVP, but i don't have time to play the game the way it is let alone run a guild. so right now i am basking in the sunlight of soloness and just rocking a stormpike guard tabard. lol 
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July 10, 2009, 11:10 AM
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Dyson 80 Human Warlock Scilla US PvP Guild: Eden Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: I HATE guild drama
Guild drama comes in many different forms. Some of it may come in the form of favoritism by leadership, but other times it can come from mis-matched expectations. For example, the classic "casual raiding guild" drama comes from where the people who are really good at raiding but want to raid with their friends turn a blind eye to one person having poor gear or poor skill because they are a friend at the same time as leaving someone else out who is someone else's friend. I feel for leadership in these sorts of situations. Because this is a game, people will always have tensions between whether the guild should be professional and arms-length run or be run with friendly intentions over other concerns. That's why I personally prefer the idea of being in a focused raiding guild than a casual raiding guild. That isn't to say I think casual guilds can't be run without drama, but that it is extremely hard and time consuming to manage friendships at the same time as progression raiding and it is rare to find leadership that does this adeptly and has the time to do this for more than a few months (before the leadership themselves burns out lol). In a focused guild, everyone knows it's about the bosses and temporarily having to sit out underperformers or people because it's not the best group makeup otherwise is part of having a professional mindset. Then the rest of the guild time is the equivalent of having drinks at happy hour after work or going out to lunch with coworkers. It's professional but also people can have fun socially still. Anyway, for those of you having guild drama problems, there are better guilds out there. Keep your eye out and don't be afraid of pugs. You might find a good pug that leads you to a good guild. |
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