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Old July 19, 2009, 08:36 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Terrorizt
80 Undead Warlock
Ysondra US PvP
Guild: Lost Requiem
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.1 Chaos Bolt could be more win

Don't get me wrong totally love it, but is it just me or does Anyone wish they followed through with chaos bolt being an immunity breaker?


we are pretty sick but DAMN i woulda loved that yeah?
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Old July 20, 2009, 12:25 AM   #2 (permalink)

3.1 Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

its a glorified incinerate on a shorter cast time and green bolt..yippee.

Standard stuff - people qq so blizz nerf it down to useless and are now we are stuck with it being a not so great 51 point talent..very lack luster.

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Old July 20, 2009, 01:14 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Abraxas
80 Undead Warlock
Aegwynn US PvP
Talent Spec: 0/18/53
Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

We should QQ abaut the not-so-equivalent 51 point talente de destro tree has... if qq did this, may be more qq could fix it, haha.
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Old July 20, 2009, 01:15 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Cyphyllis
70 Human Warlock
Blackrock US PvP
Guild: Six Pack
Talent Spec: 54/2/15
Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

is it actually worth getting ? could that point be better spent elsewhere ?
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Old July 20, 2009, 01:15 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Belthezor
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Draenor US PvE
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Guild: BCBuds
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 56/0/15
Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

For a 51point talent I aggree that this is a very lame spell. If it shot through pally bubble and any other similar type thing then I would see it as a good pvp spell at least.

Another 51point talent that is pretty lame is Meta. If it were a permanent thing than yes it would be nice, but as it is, its pretty lame. At least chaos bolt is used.

Haunt is probably the only 51point talent I actually like.
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Old July 20, 2009, 01:48 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Terrorizt
80 Undead Warlock
Ysondra US PvP
Guild: Lost Requiem
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.1 Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

yeah I mean don't get me wrong i use the spell as often as allowed. it makes nice in pvp, but if it were an immune breaker, or even immune penetrater (allowing immunity to still be up but damage to be dealt), it would be so much more viable heh.
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Old July 20, 2009, 04:52 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Blood Elf Warlock
Shadow Council US RP Guild: Stormborn

Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

Haunt is the only good 51 point spell we have. Chaos Bolt got neutered. It doesnt really do much of anything but damage. Meta is even worse. It is still completely useless.
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Old July 20, 2009, 04:42 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Lephlock
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome
Talent Spec: 0/55/16
Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

Meta is awesome. I tire of non-demonology locks talking about how "useless" Meta is. It looks cool, does great AoE, has some other situational uses, and is a nice damage boost on top of that.

They need to tweak meta so that it scales properly with gear at the high end, but otherwise it's an excellent 51 point talent. Up intil full Naxx BiS, it was within a few hundred DPS of the top spec we have... far from useless. They can fix the scaling simply by changing it from a 20% damage increase to a 20% spellpower, crit, haste, int, and spi buff. Then it would scale with gear properly, and they just need to tweak it back up in DPS.
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Old July 20, 2009, 05:02 PM   #9 (permalink)

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cinderseer
80 Human Warlock
Azuremyst US PvE
Guild: ONE PIECE

3.1 Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

..... I definitely am not a meta-expert, considering I find it a horribly-boring spec... but I lose 1k+ dps going from deep destruction to meta (the other lock and I switch back and forth between who has to be on debuff duty for fights).

It may not be worthless to all you who like it and care to improve upon it, but considering it is just a shadowbolt spamming spec, I'd think it would at least keep up with destruction's 5-6k raid dps within a few hundred easily.

And the thing is, we are long past the boss encounters where dps matters more than total damage done. Hodir Hard Mode for instance, yeah meta will give you a good 36 second burst (zomg 15k dps!!!1!1!111), but when that is all over you shoot way back down to the anchor position. I'll take a Steady 6k dps destruction build any day over a meta's 36 second zerging. IMO, meta spec is only used for the buff, just how spriests were just mana batteries in The Burning Crusade.
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Old July 20, 2009, 05:09 PM   #10 (permalink)

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RomaGoth
80 Human Warlock
Durotan US PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 30/41/0
3.1 Re: Chaos Bolt could be more win

I agree with Lephturn, Meta is not useless, especially in certain circumstances. I soloed BRD, LBRS and UBRS on Saturday for the achievements (never had been in the last two), and had no problems until the final boss in UBRS. Even at level 80, General Drakkisath and his two minions were tough to take down. As a clothie, I had to do a lot of kiting with him and died twice before finishing him off. Some of it is the warlock threat issue to be sure, but to be honest, every mob in UBRS hits like a truck. The trash mobs have over 14k health. The point of this rambling session is that I popped Meta a few times on bosses and it saved me from a corpse run a couple of times.

I believe it is a good thing that we don't all like the same spec, otherwise what fun would WoW be if we all ran the same way? Oh, wait...we did. It was called The Burning Crusade endgame as destro/shadowbolt spammer....

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