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July 22, 2009, 03:11 AM
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booted from the guild: raid rules?
Hi guys, Im fairly new to the game, have been playing since feb and joined a guild that some of my real life friends are in. The guild isnt a serious raiding guild we have been running naxx 10 on a friday night and agreeing continuation on sundays. Sometimes needing to pug a couple of people to make the raid up. over the past few weeks we have been almost clearing it on the sunday night then that is it til reset which considering the really good gear drops off of KT is a little frustrating! This week was even worse, We all agreed that we would run sunday evening after clearing 3/4 leaving construct and sapph/KT. It came to sunday the RL said they couldnt continue due to real life. There was only 5 of us so we gave up and 2 of us joined a naxx 25 pug group which had sapph/kt left. When i realised we werent going to continue i put something in the calender for the following (monday) evening for 8pm, hoping to get construct down so we had a chance of clearing sapph and KT before the reset on wednesday morning. The monday evening run went ahead without the "raid leader" 8 other guildies and a pug. Before we went in I also put an event in the calender for tuesday evening at 8pm knowing we probably woulnt get as far as sapph/KT in the time we had. The RL came online at about 9.30 when we were pretty much finished when we came out I started getting cryptic wispers from a couple of friends so i wispered the RL to find out whats going on. It turns out that if the "raid leader" isnt running then the raid cant continue what this means is that it is concieveable that you could have 9 guildies all ready to raid but because the "RL" isnt online they cant do anything. The following day a long line of txt messages to one of my friends who is a guild leader trying to explain how pointless this rule is so close to reset but she wasnt having any of it. Tuesday evening arrived i logged in at about 7.45 to see others putting a raid together I was invited to join them so I did. We had to get a healer from my friends list to complete the group. I warned the others that we were breaking the rule by running tonight and that we may get a telling off from the guild for running they were happy with this and we continued seeing as a bunch of us didnt have the achievement and knew the potential of some nice gear dropping. After completing the run we came out of naxx and i was immidiately wispered by my GL friend and told that as i was leading the raid tonight due to it being me that put the event in the calender i have knowingly broken the guild rules and I will be removed! Now this rule has a point earlier in the reset but when you get to monday/tuesday evening and you have 9 willing guildies and a reset which will be wasted if we dont run then I just dont see the problem. As it happens i was looking for a new guild anyway as I want to do more raiding than my guild is doing. What do you think guys? Is this how the game works, do all guilds have this rule? why should a guild raid not happen the night before reset just because the raid leader isnt online? It just seems selfish that one person can stop 9 others from running when its going to reset the following morning. All this means that my poor lock is now guildless on the EU dragonblight server and a number of confused guildies are also looking to move. so im open to suggestions on friendly social raiding guilds Am i completly in the wrong here or is somebody on some sort of power trip? As I said im new to raiding so not that familer with the ettiquette so I would love to hear from you lot as to how this all works! Ade Last edited by flyingade; July 22, 2009 at 03:15 AM.. |
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July 22, 2009, 03:25 AM
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Neithaniel 80 Blood Elf Warlock Argent Dawn Euro RP Guild: Serkequendi Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/52/19 |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
Dura lex sed lex ...but despite of the saying I would be only happy lo leave a guild with such leader... GL in finding something. |
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July 22, 2009, 03:46 AM
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Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
sounds like your GL is a douche-bag. They expect you to not raid, something you obviously want to do seeing as you are in a raiding guild, just because they aren't playing/on at the time of the raid. It's too bad that you are new to raiding and were exposed to this kind of selfish playing. In my guild, I was just a regular raider and decided the guild should do a 25 naxx, so I set one up. The GL wasnt on and we cleared the thing in one night. Due to this, I got promoted to a semi-officer for organising a raid and now often do just that. good luck with a new guild. |
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July 22, 2009, 04:20 AM
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Cormanthor 80 Human Warlock Gnomeregan US PvE Guild: Knights who say Ni Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Various |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
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July 22, 2009, 04:30 AM
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Palpatine 37 Undead Warlock Stormscale Euro PvP Guild: Braca Karamazovi Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
well, i've been around since beta i think, playing both alliance and horde, and i was a part of a 3 raiding guilds in that period.. i think your (Ex) raid leader's issue could be the following: sees the guild as a personal project, a hobby per se..naturally, doesn't feel like letting anybody else messing with it, afraid they could spoil or corrupt it.. you can either live with it or try to find another guild..most of the guilds tend to have some rules like 'you cant get saved to the instances the guild has on raid/farm status' etc. but to be honest, if you get into a collision with your real life friends over a raid/loot etc, i'd suggest you try to find another guild where none of your real life are in..because, it's a bit silly to destroy your relationship (and it's been known to happen) over a computer game ;) p.s. i've maybe gone a bit offtopic on this, sorry about that..haven't had my morning coffee yet so my brain isn't at it's best 
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July 22, 2009, 04:31 AM
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Heavenshy 80 Human Warlock dragonblight Euro PvE Guild: Shadow Forest Brotherhood Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
Hello  Well it is pretty sad that a raid is called just because a "raid leader" is not available. What tends to happen in our guild, if raid leader can't come for one reason or another then we simply make a raid without him/her of which the raid leader has no problems with or our guild master, in actual fact they will tell us to put a raid on without them if they cant make it. I am not sure why any Raid leader or Guild master would want to stop 9 other people from being able to gain loot and have fun in a raid other than for them having selfish reasons. I see that your on the same server as me also  Yey for Dragonblight. I have seen quite a lot of guilds advertising for people to join recently on our server so hopefully you wont have any problems finding one, if I see one for you I will let you know.Good Luck in Your search for a new guild, I am sure You will find a good one that will fit you better. Heavenshy
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July 22, 2009, 05:13 AM
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SpackaBrain 80 Undead Warlock Spinebreaker Euro PvP Guild: Meatball of War Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/14/57 |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
Your raid leader sounds like a complete tool. I could understand their attitude if you had joined a pug group and got yourself saved on another run but continuing a guild run which by the sounds of things wasn't going to be completed before reset shows initiative rather than a disregard for the rules. Maybe your (ex) Guild leader should be looking at replacing his so called 'Raid Leader' rather than someone who has shown willing and drive to get raids happening. Best of luck with finding a new guild mate
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July 22, 2009, 05:45 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
Well... the rule is dumb, be happy that you can find yourself another guild But: You were told on monday that you were acting against the guild rules, and you did the same again on tuesday. So it was correct to remove you from the guild. If you join them, you have to follow their rules. That's theory of course. In practice this rule maybe was made on the fly, and as said above I would be happy to not be in that guild anymore. |
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July 22, 2009, 06:24 AM
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Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
the only rule that most guilds have is that if you're signed up for a raid instance and then you get yourself saved to said instance before hand then you'll prob get benched / gkicked. having said that, that rules only applies to mains, unless you were notify an alt is needed. i think your ex guild just had a stupid rule _-_ |
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July 22, 2009, 08:47 AM
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Zanther 80 Human Warlock proudmore US PvE Guild: la familia di stonewall Profile: WoW Rankings Talent Spec: 3/51/17 |
Re: booted from the guild: raid rules?
Find anoth guild with a better raid leader. She should not have minded if all of you were ready. She does sound as if she's on a power trip. I think that guild needs to change it's rulkes or it will continue to lose good players like yourself. |
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