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Demonic Empathy
Requires 40 Points already spent in Demonology Talents
Published by Akasha
October 31, 2008
Demonic Empathy

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Demonic Empathy". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Demonic Empathy. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Demonology, Tier 9
Requires: 40 Points already spent in Demonology Talents
If your pet critically hits, your spell or abilities are increased. If you critically hit, then your pet gets the boost!

Ranks:
Rank 1: When you or your pet critically hits with a spell or ability, the other's damage done by their next 3 spells or abilities is increased by 1%. Lasts 15 sec.

Rank 2: When you or your pet critically hits with a spell or ability, the other's damage done by their next 3 spells or abilities is increased by 2%. Lasts 15 sec.

Rank 3: When you or your pet critically hits with a spell or ability, the other's damage done by their next 3 spells or abilities is increased by 3%. Lasts 15 sec.

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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #1 (permalink)

Character Info
Akrab
80 Undead Warlock
Sunstrider Euro PvP
Guild: Frenzy
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/17/0
Demonic Empathy

I have a question about the Demonic Empathy talent, it says:

Demonic Empathy: When you or your pet is critically hit, the other has a 33/66/100 % chance to have their casting or attack speed increased by 30% for 8 sec.

My question being: who are they referring to as "the other"?
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Llossa
70 Undead Warlock
Sylvanus Euro PvP
Guild: Blizz
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 43/7/11
Demonic Empathy

I'm guessing but...


If you are crit then your pets attack speed is increased and if your pet is crit it makes you attack faster.
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Barclande
70 Undead Warlock
Smolderthorn US PvP
Guild: Writhen
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/21/40
Demonic Empathy

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Originally Posted by TheAkrab View Post
I have a question about the Demonic Empathy talent, it says:

Demonic Empathy: When you or your pet is critically hit, the other has a 33/66/100 % chance to have their casting or attack speed increased by 30% for 8 sec.

My question being: who are they referring to as "the other"?
Bolded the improtant part. You or your pet gets critted, the one that didn't get get critted gets the buff.
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Akrab
80 Undead Warlock
Sunstrider Euro PvP
Guild: Frenzy
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/17/0
Demonic Empathy

Ahh thank you for clearing that out, at one point I thought they were referring to "the other" as the enemy, which is just plain silly for a talent! So, basically:
I get critically hit -> My pet gets the buff;
My pet gets critically hit -> I get the buff.

Thank you!
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #5 (permalink)

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RomaGoth
80 Human Warlock
Durotan US PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 30/41/0
Demonic Empathy

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Ahh thank you for clearing that out, at one point I thought they were referring to "the other" as the enemy, which is just plain silly for a talent! So, basically:
I get critically hit -> My pet gets the buff;
My pet gets critically hit -> I get the buff.

Thank you!
You got it.
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Crocus
70 Gnome Warlock
Garona US PvE
Guild: Prismatic Order
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 7/43/11
Demonic Empathy

Now, if this talent were available for Beast Master hunters.....Not that I'm overly unhappy with the proposed Wrath of the Lich King BM hunter tree as it is now.
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Rodyle
70 Undead Warlock
Scarshield Legion Euro RP PvP
Talent Spec: 20/41/0
Demonic Empathy

Hi there,

I myself, have always been a huge demonology fan, and as you might expect, I was thrilled when I saw the Wrath of the Lich King talent trees for the first time. However, after inspecting some talents a bit more closely, some questions came up, which I hope some of you could answer.

1: How long does Demonic Empowerment on the voidwalker, imp and felguard?
2: How much crit does your demon approximately have with demonic tactics and improved demonic tactics?
3: Demonic empathy says: "When you or your pet crits with a spell or ability blablabla next 3 spells or abilities blabla."
Do those "Spells or abilities" also include felguard white hits (else, I think this talent would be fairly useless)?

And some questions on non-demonology talents:

How much mana does your fel hunter regain from his shadow bite ability with 2/2 improved fel hunter?
Molten Core speaks about DoT effects. Do those effects include immolate and shadowflame?
Is there an internal cooldown on Nether Protection?

That should be all for now, thanks in advance.
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Ceannon
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Thaurissan Oceania PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/53/18
Demonic Empathy

I think its like 12 seconds for demonic empowerment, as for demonic empathy they changed it back so I heard, so that when someone crits your pet you get 30% increase in attack and casting speed and viceversa. I don't that I wish it would give you the 30% increase when you pet crits making having imp demonic tactic more viable.
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Old October 31, 2008, 12:05 AM   #9 (permalink)

Demonic Empathy

I guess the pet´s crit rate will always be a joke:(
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