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October 31, 2008, 12:04 AM
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Demonic Empathy
Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Demonic Empathy". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Demonic Empathy. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite. ...
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October 31, 2008, 07:59 PM
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Majestrix 80 Human Warlock Kargath US PvE Guild: Keepers of the Old Ways Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 1/55/15 |
Re: Demonic Empathy
More important is that the spell only procs when your pet crits with a spell of ability. ie when he crits cleave (since this deep in the demo tree one assumes your using the FG). If cleave is turned off (which it often is in PVE) you'll gain no benefit from this at all and since your pet can use 2 of them at best... this talent really doesn't seem to be worth points, especially this high in the tree... Maj
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November 03, 2008, 06:57 AM
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Re: Demonic Empathy
Not entirely true. It crits on all attacks made by your pet. The problem is that 3% really isn't all that much. Not for the 3 points you have to put in. Even if your shadowbolts deal 3000 damage, that means you get another whopping 90 damage added to it. Secondly the other way around is rather lame. Since it only lasts 15 seconds and cleave has a 6 second cooldown. Which means your felguard can cleave only twice at best. The imp is the only one that actually benefits from that buff. Overal though, it's just not a very good talent for the point investment. |
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November 07, 2008, 09:01 AM
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Re: Demonic Empathy
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November 07, 2008, 09:28 AM
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Snibbels 70 Human Warlock Frostwishper Euro PvP |
Re: Demonic Empathy
I've noticed a little something with this talent: the felguards intercept crits do not proc it. Already made a ticket about it but the GM said it is working as intended |
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November 07, 2008, 08:23 PM
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Feelnopain 70 Undead Warlock Uldum US PvE Guild: Skeleton Crew Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Demonic Empathy
The way I look at it, with me critting 40-50% of the time in boss fights and my Felguard critting about 30% of the time, it's almost a constant 3% buff. That said, I wouldn't be surprised to see this talent buffed a bit. |
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January 12, 2009, 10:43 AM
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Ammit 80 Gnome Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: FIRESTORM Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: Demonic Empathy
Can anyone confirm whether this has gotten changed or is it just a typo? Maybe this is a known typo but I don't frequent the official forums, and I can't remember having read it elsewhere. The main WoW site talent calculator shows this now giving 2/4/6% increase to your next 3 spells for 15 sec. instead of 1/2/3%? Because, for 6%, I'd consider working it in... Last edited by Ammit; January 12, 2009 at 10:47 AM.. |
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January 12, 2009, 11:12 AM
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Lephlock 80 Blood Elf Warlock Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome Talent Spec: 0/55/16 |
Re: Demonic Empathy
Hmmm... I might have to go respec and test it. In my past experience, I never saw it proc on anything except cleave crits. Test it by turning auto-cast off on cleave... you won't see the purple DE buff. The 6% sounds nice if it's true... but what's the % uptime? Back in my mid-70's I had specced 62 points in Demonology and had it... but it almost never procced.
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January 12, 2009, 10:02 PM
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Ammit 80 Gnome Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: FIRESTORM Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: Demonic Empathy
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 I don't have any hard numbers as I dropped it a while back, but when I did have, it really seemed to proc quite a bit for me personally. I never paid enough attention with the Cleave off to say, but I would have sworn I saw it on a regular swing crit from FG before... maybe not though... *** Information added 618 Minutes and 41 Seconds later... *** Well, I did check this tonight... my tree still says 1/2/3% in-game... guess it's got to be a typo on the official site then... |
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January 26, 2009, 05:24 AM
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Re: Demonic Empathy
When my pet crits Demonic Pact AND Demonic Empathy should proc together. But i noted lately this is not the case and i checked it by the buffs appeared on my UI: My Demonic pact buff appears after pet criticals but Demonic Empathy not all the times. Feedback please ?
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January 26, 2009, 01:02 PM
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Majestrix 80 Human Warlock Kargath US PvE Guild: Keepers of the Old Ways Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 1/55/15 |
Re: Demonic Empathy
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