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Demonic Empowerment
Requires 5 points in Master Demonologist and 30 Points already spent in Demonology Talents
Published by Akasha
October 31, 2008
Demonic Empowerment

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Demonic Empowerment". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Demonic Empowerment. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Demonology, Tier 7
Requires: 5 points in Master Demonologist and 30 Points already spent in Demonology Talents
Grants the Warlock's summoned demon Empowerment.

Ranks:
Rank 1: Grants the Warlock's summoned demon Empowerment.
Succubus - Instantly vanishes, causing the Succubus to go into an improved Invisibility state. The vanish effect removes all stuns, snares and movement impairing effects from the Succubus.

Voidwalker - Increases the Voidwalker's health by 20%, and it's threat generated from spells and attacks by 20% for 20 sec.

Imp - Increases the Imp's spell critical strike chance by 20% for 30 sec.

Felhunter - Dispels all magical effects from the Felhunter.

Fel Guard - Increases the Fel Guard's attack speed by 20% and breaks all stun, snare and movement impairing effects and makes your Fel Guard immune to them. Lasts 15 sec.

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Old October 31, 2008, 07:59 AM   #1 (permalink)

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Kooze
80 Gnome Warlock
Detheroc US PvP
Guild: Divine
Talent Spec: 21/40/0
Demonic Empowerment

Is this talent still bugged with the voidwalker???? Can I still have him tank all of BT?
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Old October 31, 2008, 07:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Necrolin
80 Undead Warlock
Ysera US PvE
Guild: Audacity
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Demonic Empowerment

As of last night, it was indeed still bugged, but the hot fix is coming soon, so get out of the habit now
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Warloco
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Twilight's Hammer Euro PvP
Guild: DeathWishers
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Demonic Empowerment

I solo'd one of the Eye of Shadow mobs below the Necropolis'

Threat wouldn't of been much of an issue since most of my time was spent draining/siphon. Was quite fun though... Had around 7 CoD's go off, so the fight could've been around the 9 minute mark.

The only annoyance was the Shadow kept fearing me
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Kevink
80 Gnome Warlock
Undermine US PvE
Guild: Pocket Change
Talent Spec: 0/41/30
Demonic Empowerment

Well from my experience it's not broken. In the last couple weeks I've been running Headless Horseman with 3 friends of mine and I've been tanking him with the VW. When I pop DE I'm seeing threat generation unlike anything I've ever seen in the game. We have not even come close to pulling aggro off of the VW in a single attempt on HHM.

Yesterday I solo'd Uvuros, the big two headed 70 elite dog in SMV. I was going all out nuke in Meta form and never pulled aggro. I'm also seeing a significant increase in felguard dps when I pop DE on him. So, speaking only for myself It seems to be working just fine.
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Nort
70 Gnome Warlock
Whisperwind US PvE

Demonic Empowerment

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When I pop DE I'm seeing threat generation unlike anything I've ever seen in the game. We have not even come close to pulling aggro off of the VW in a single attempt on HHM.
That's the part that is "broke". DE is erroneously multiplying threat by crazy amounts.

A VW can build up 250K+ threat in a matter of seconds.

Bliz stated they are "fixing" it, just waiting to see if it completely gimps the VW as a tank or not.
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Lephlock
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome
Talent Spec: 0/55/16
Demonic Empowerment

I really hope they don't gimp it too much. If it really goes to 20%, I'm not sure it will do what we need. Agreed it's OP now, but I would really like a DE'd Void to run about 80% of the threat of a real tank. It is nice to have the option to use him to tank 5 man runs, or at least off-tank. I'd hate to lose that!
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Zoat
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Archimonde US PvP
Guild: Innkeeper
Talent Spec: 56/0/15
Demonic Empowerment

It really is nice to actually be able to use him as intended. I personally did not use my void ever since I obtained the succy for leveling and after that it was imp tapping. With the high threat he finally is a tank we can use, low damage, high armor, high hp, high threat. I remember trying to use him pre-patch and finding it useless since after casting my first sb I'd pull aggro. I hope they don't nerf him too bad since as I've seen while running shadow labyrinth he's a tank but he can't take on 5-6 elites and have either one of us make it out whereas a well geared tank has little problem with minor heals. I have also found that a well geared tank can pull aggro given the cd on demonic empowerment. While it seems bugged now I kinda doubt it will be that way when the expansion hits and I hope blizz realizes that. We need something to take the hard hits in Northrend.
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Kevink
80 Gnome Warlock
Undermine US PvE
Guild: Pocket Change
Talent Spec: 0/41/30
Demonic Empowerment

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That's the part that is "broke". DE is erroneously multiplying threat by crazy amounts.

A VW can build up 250K+ threat in a matter of seconds.

Bliz stated they are "fixing" it, just waiting to see if it completely gimps the VW as a tank or not.
Ok, my bad I have not been following the threads on this and I must admit that the level of threat that he's generating did seem a little crazy. Having said that, I think this exactly what we need and what the VW is really made for. It seems to me that if the VW is intended to be our "tank" then he should be able to hold aggro for more then one or two shadowbolts and if I'm going to go that deep in Demon then I should get a MUCH better tank. So, as far as I'm concerned.....it's not broke and should stay the way it is.
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Old October 31, 2008, 08:00 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Ankou
Undead Warlock
Mannoroth US PvP

Demonic Empowerment

kara and za cleared last night with a VW mt....I'm going to miss that.
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