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Chaos Bolt
Requires 50 Points already spent in Destruction Talents
Published by Akasha
October 16, 2008
Chaos Bolt

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Chaos Bolt". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Chaos Bolt. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Destruction, Tier 11
Requires: 50 Points already spent in Destruction Talents
A big bang nuke that can't be resisted and pierces all absorption effects! Basically, you aint hiding from this sucker!

Ranks:
Rank 1: Sends a bolt of chaotic fire at the enemy, dealing 607 to 769 Fire damage. Chaos Bolt cannot be resisted, and pierces through all absorption effects.

Rank 2 (Level 70 Spell Upgrade): Sends a bolt of chaotic fire at the enemy, dealing 781 to 991 Fire damage. Chaos Bolt cannot be resisted, and pierces through all absorption effects.

Rank 3 (Level 75 Spell Upgrade): Sends a bolt of chaotic fire at the enemy, dealing 882 to 1120 Fire damage. Chaos Bolt cannot be resisted, and pierces through all absorption effects.

Rank 4 (Level 80 Spell Upgrade): Sends a bolt of chaotic fire at the enemy, dealing 1036 to 1314 Fire damage. Chaos Bolt cannot be resisted, and pierces through all absorption effects.
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Old October 16, 2008, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)

Character Info
Debuff
80 Orc Warlock
Sargeras US PvP
Guild: Fenrir
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Chaos Bolt

Further Explanation:
Chaos bolt is a short cast-time nuke that gets a good spell damage co-efficient and has the highest Damage Per Cast Time (meaning that for the time you spend casting it, it does the most damage) of any of the destro spells. For those who heard about this spell when it was first conceived back in beta you remember that it was created with the mechanic to pierce through immunity effects like ice block and pally bubble, this is no longer the case. The only thing that this spell does is pierces through an absorb bubble (Power Word:Shield, Ice Barrier, Mana Shield, Cheat Death, etc.) and it can not be resisted (no item-based resistances, no talent-based resistances like Cloak of Shadows).

Talent while Levelling:
If you are deep destruction while you are leveling then you are probably in one of two situations.

First, you simply like the big numbers and play funstyle of destro in which case this talent is certainly to your liking. It does high damage with a short cast time and low mana cost.

Secondly, you are leveling with another class and kill times are accelerated so you specced destruction so that you don't have to rely on dots. In this case, Chaos Bolt is also a worthwhile investment.

Additional information / Common Questions:
It should be noted that in a level 70 pve environment, with the removal of the mana cost reduction element in backdraft some people are debating the worthiness of speccing deep enough into destro to pick up this talent. However, those who do will find this new spell which is abosolutely worth it's talent point in both pvp and pve.
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Old October 18, 2008, 11:25 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Jazrel
70 Human Warlock
Defias Brotherhood Euro RP PvP
Guild: The Tempered Sun
Talent Spec: 0/20/41
Chaos Bolt

What effects does it actually penetrate? I have tried it on several classes and it does work on.

Rogues; Cloak of Shadows

Mages; Mana Shield, Ice Shield thingy

Paladins; Zip

Priests; Power Word; Shield

Warlocks; Nether Protection

Warriors; Spell Reflect (Not sure)

Druids; Barkskin

Shamans; Water Shield, Lightning Shield, Earth Shield

Hunters; Zip


NPCs;

I havent had the chance to test it out yet, but my guess is;

Karazhan; The Mana Shield mobs before Curator.

Black Temple; Naj'Entus' Tidal Shield?


Anyone else can confirm/add to this :S?
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Old October 19, 2008, 12:17 AM   #3 (permalink)

Re: Chaos Bolt

On another note, what is everybody's cast time on the Chaos Bolt? With Bane + Haste, the tooltip cast time it states for me is 1.3 seconds. When I cast it, it seems to take 1.8 seconds =/
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Old October 19, 2008, 12:44 AM   #4 (permalink)

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80 Undead Warlock
malorne US PvP
Guild: no dont pull
Talent Spec: 54/2/15
Re: Chaos Bolt

i noticed it goes through mage's mana sheild, but not ice block. So far i saw it go through PW:Shield and Cloak of shadows. I really wish it went though pally bubble!
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Old October 19, 2008, 01:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Cormanthor
80 Human Warlock
Gnomeregan US PvE
Guild: Knights who say Ni
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: Various
Re: Chaos Bolt

It says it pierces "absorption effects", so I would guess the Voidwalker's Sacrifice should be added to the list.
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Old October 19, 2008, 01:43 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Muberikntyl
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Auchindoun US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 6/44/11
Re: Chaos Bolt

it goes through all 'absorb' (like mana shield, void sac) and 'resist' (like CloS) but not 'immune' (like bubble, ice block)

it used to go through immunities too, but was nerfed, which sucks
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Old October 19, 2008, 02:58 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Tragik
80 Gnome Warlock
Khadgar US PvE
Guild: Can Heal Stupid
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: Chaos Bolt

Make sure you trained Rank 2!!!!!!

The only bad thing about Chaos Bolt is that you can't cast it more often.

That spell is EVIL.

I had a 9K crit with it the other day (that's off a 1.3 second cast with Haste) vs. 8K crits off Backdrafted Soulfires.......
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Old October 19, 2008, 03:21 AM   #8 (permalink)

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Tragik
80 Gnome Warlock
Khadgar US PvE
Guild: Can Heal Stupid
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: Chaos Bolt

Chaos bolt rocks. Massive damage, tiny mana cost, short cast time, huge potential for PVE. For PVP it's very nice, as well, in that it's a big, quick nuke.

While Raiding, it's my favorite spell. When the CD's up, I pop it and have seen numbers as big as 9000 with a 1.3 second cast (lolol). This is obscene.

Many haters haven't trained it to rank two (I'm a convert lol).

Additional comments:

It should pop through Pally bubbles in PVP. It should blow through FR in PVE, but meh, that would be OP (I guess).
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Old October 19, 2008, 04:40 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Risotto
80 Gnome Warlock
Perenolde US PvE
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/20/51
Re: Chaos Bolt

Chaos Bolt is a pure and simple nuke. It is a shadow bolt/incinerate nice nuke with high damage, low mana cost, and low cast time.

Talent while PvP Battlegrounds:

It goes through absorption effects, but the absorption effect like the shield remains there to absorb your next spell, so the benefits are minimal. The 12 sec short Cooldown is a compensation I guess. I am sure if it were allowed to pierce even immunities, the Cooldown will be a lot longer.

Right now, Chaos Bolt won't be used in PvP, because if you take Chaos Bolt, you cannot have Soul Link. While a chaos bolt is a nice addition to a destro lock's arsenal, Soul Link is more useful at the moment.
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