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Empowered Imp
Requires 40 points already spent in Destruction Talents
Published by Akasha
November 03, 2008
Empowered Imp

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Empowered Imp". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Empowered Imp. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


Talent information:
Talent Tree: Demonology, Tier 9
Requires: 40 points already spent in Destruction Talents
Improves your Imp!

Ranks:
Rank 1: Increases the damage done by your Imp by 5%, and all critical hits done by your Imp have a 33% chance to increase your spell critical hit chance for your next spell by 20%. This effect lasts 8 sec.

Rank 2: Increases the damage done by your Imp by 10%, and all critical hits done by your Imp have a 66% chance to increase your spell critical hit chance for your next spell by 20%. This effect lasts 8 sec.

Rank 3: Increases the damage done by your Imp by 15%, and all critical hits done by your Imp have a 100% chance to increase your spell critical hit chance for your next spell by 20%. This effect lasts 8 sec.

Further Explanation:
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Talent while Levelling:
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Old November 04, 2008, 03:00 AM   #1 (permalink)

Character Info
Demorak
80 Human Warlock
Alexstrasza US PvE
Guild: A Team
Talent Spec: 0/50/21
Re: Empowered Imp

A few questions that have been bugging me: What is the imp's Crit rating? does it scale with yours? How would you calculate it if it does? Or does the imp's crit rating only scale with his INT? just a few minor things to consider before i pick this talent. Any feedback it welcome
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Old November 10, 2008, 05:28 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Octavus
80 Gnome Warlock
draenor US PvE
Guild: HOSS
Talent Spec: 2/13/56
Re: Empowered Imp

My imp seems to be have around a 20% crit rating. It is not influenced by gear worn, that much I know. I was also curious on how to increase the imps Crit rating... I don't think his intellect would increase the crit rating too much if at all, otherwise at level 80 the crit rating would go up drastically. Anyone know for sure? I'd love to see empowered imp proccing more .
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Old November 10, 2008, 07:02 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Jazrel
70 Human Warlock
Defias Brotherhood Euro RP PvP
Guild: The Tempered Sun
Talent Spec: 0/20/41
Re: Empowered Imp

I absolutely -love- this talent!

From WWS logs, my imp tends to have between 20% and 30% crit % which is absolutely lovely during raids. Mana problems flew out of the whindow so all you have to take care off is making sure he does not stand in ''Death Rays''.

In raids, having this proc 2-4 times in a row tends to give a nice damage boost overall, it is still a random thing.

Also remember to keep him out of Phase Shift ( Just turn it off ) so he gets all the buffs you can get.

Depending on your gear level, this can give you up to 70%~ crit on the next spell.

As I don't PvP, I have no idea if its usefull in Arena's or BGs but Imps tend to get 1-2 shotted so I wouldent count on it ;p

Also, its ''meh'' on Trash and 5 Mans, because on longer fights it only comes to its full potentional.
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Old June 09, 2009, 12:04 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Carnall
80 Human Warlock
Rexxar US PvE
Guild: Sanctified
Talent Spec: Dest/Dem
3.1 Re: Empowered Imp worth it?

I understand the +15% damage is good but my question really lies in the imps crit rate. My imp seems to only crit at about 2% so I'm only really getting half of this benefit. Is this average or is there something wrong with my pet? Maybe I'm just having a bad stretch...
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Old June 09, 2009, 12:35 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Razakel
80 Undead Warlock
Executus US PvP
Guild: Rotten
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/17/54
3.1 Re: Empowered Imp

Pets (Hunter, Warlock, Death Knight) have a flat 5% crit rating that is unaffected by your own crit rating, or any other stat for that matter. It is a completely non-scaling stat as of 3.1.3. You can see this by mousing over your demon's agility, even for caster demons such as the Imp. This can be further buffed by the Demonology talents Demonic Tactics and Improved Demonic Tactics - which of course you won't have if you've talented for Empowered Imp. That's it. So you may find yourself wondering why is this talent worth it when your Imp just has a 5% crit rating? The reason it is worth it in a raid environment is because there are a few debuffs that increase the chance for crits against the debuffed mob. This can bump your Imp's crit rating up to the area of 10% or so depending on who you have in the raid. Still, not exactly overwhelming. I would argue that the real benefit of Empowered Imp is the +15% to the Imp's damage, the crit mechanic is just icing on the cake.
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Old June 09, 2009, 01:34 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Luxury
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Deathwing US PvP
Guild: Addiction
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 54/0/17
3.1 Re: Empowered Imp worth it?

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I understand the +15% damage is good but my question really lies in the imps crit rate. My imp seems to only crit at about 2% so I'm only really getting half of this benefit. Is this average or is there something wrong with my pet? Maybe I'm just having a bad stretch...
You can check your Imp's Crit Rating on his character sheet. It's the 2nd tab on your character sheet when you have him summoned, I believe. But what tclkage said is right, he only has 5% crit. From our parses it seems, he averages at 10% Crit.
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