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Old November 03, 2008, 08:31 PM  

Emberstorm

Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Emberstorm". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Emberstorm. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite.


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Old November 05, 2008, 04:17 PM   #10 (permalink)

Re: Post: Patch v3.0.3

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If you mean for corruption and immolate, the changes aren't live yet. I was hoping and was the first thing i went to check. Corruption still has a coefficient of 0.56
the change is live. corruption and immolate have had their coefficient changes live since sometime last week.

corruption now has a 120% coefficient and immolate 100%. this has been tested to be true on live by multiple warlocks including myself.



something of important note, however, EA is currently bugged. when EA refreshes corruption via haunt or drain life, it reverts that corruption's coefficient back to 93.6%. you have to manually recast corruption if you want it to stay at the new 120%.

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Hmmm... I'm not actually sure if I'm seeing increased numbers from Incinerate...
Sometimes it feels like I am, but I'm not completely sure. If there is, this is the final game-breaking moment between Shadow Bolt and Incinerate.

*Edit*
Is it just me, or does it feel like Shadow Bolt has been silently hit in the groin with the nerf bat. Plain Incinerates seem to be doing the same damage as Shadow Bolts.
Something to note also, shadow and flame was changed to be multiplicative instead of additive to incinerate and shadowbolt's coefficients. This results in about a 3% dps nerf for incinerate compared to the old version, and 6% for shadowbolt.
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Old November 05, 2008, 05:51 PM   #11 (permalink)

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Warloco
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Twilight's Hammer Euro PvP
Guild: DeathWishers
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Re: Post: Patch v3.0.3

I think with the new changes, 0/40/21 ( Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft ) may actually work better now, with the extra 5% from Demonic Tactics. With a base of 20% paper crit, fully raid buffed (moonkin aura and mage: improved scorch on the target), you'll be putting out roughly:
  • Base: 20% (20%)
  • Master Conjurer Firestone: 2% (22%)
  • MD-Succubus: 5% (27%)
  • Demonic Tactics: 10% (37%)
  • Devastation: 5% (42%)
  • Moonkin Aura: 5% (47%)
  • Improved Scorch/Winter's Chill: 10% (57%)
57% crit raid buffed from a baseline crit of 20%!!! Most warlocks generally have a lot more than 20% (normally around the 25% mark). That is some insane crit, which I think will keep mental shadow bolts rolling out.
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Old November 06, 2008, 11:25 AM   #12 (permalink)

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80 Gnome Warlock
Khadgar US RP PvP
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Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Post: Patch v3.0.3

So I ran last night BT

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and I was 6th over all in dps on all boss's dps was around 1421 ish. ( couple of times top 2 )
Could of been higher if I did not die like a newb in two fights. Also in a few fights was doing COT.

I probably could of done better, but Its been a while since I had to keep up dots.

What I was doing was Curse of Agony, Corruption,Immo,Incinerate.

Boss fights

COD sometimes if fight did not require COT and Corr, Incinerate.

Question

I am wondering to get molten core to proc should I use all my dots ( COR,Curse of Agony, COD)??
( would one proc Molten core better than another dot? )

This way my Immolate and Incinerate would cause more damage.





I have some T6. I was wondering should I use Corr, Imo, Incinerate only?
With my T6 bonus ( 2 piece bonus) the healing I would get back from the bonus I could Lifetap more ?? and cast Incinerate more?? ehhh

Any insight would be welcomed.
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Old November 07, 2008, 02:12 PM   #13 (permalink)

Re: Post: Patch v3.0.3

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57% crit raid buffed from a baseline crit of 20%!!! Most warlocks generally have a lot more than 20% (normally around the 25% mark).
Wow, that is something I would love to see in action. I wonder how that would play out at level 80 when we have even more crit from gear.
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Old November 11, 2008, 04:45 PM   #14 (permalink)

Re: Post: Patch v3.0.3

40/21 is insane crit....w' so much crit from skills you can stack haste.

However it will be kind of gimmicky for leveling. I have used 56/0/5, 0/55/6, and a couple 2/3/56 or 7/3/51 builds. So far I'm noticing the increase alot less in fire. Shadow seems to have gained alot more from it.

The down side is now affliction is buggy since everlasting affliction seems to reset corruption back to its lower spelldmg coefficient. Combined w' the shadow embrace bug seeming to still be there it seems blizz has some more fixing to do. Hopefully the will bug fix that before 80. Also on the list is ruin not working w' conflag....but given conflag is about 6% of your damage in a raid at SWP gear levels w' 50'ish % crit its a small matter compared to what affliction's got wrong w' it for bugs.
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