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March 11, 2009, 02:22 AM
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Re: Ruin
Why should Affliction take this talent? Immolate is glyphed. At 2kish sp, the crittable part of Immolate is 400, cast every 15 sec. Shadowbolt comprises even less of overall damage (sb + Imm = 4.6% in Nax25 recently). So, why spend 5 points here? To turn 4.6% into 6%? And that doesn't even count the relatively wasted 4 points in ISB needed to get there? Thanks |
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March 11, 2009, 04:44 AM
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Vacuity 80 Gnome Warlock Ragnaros Euro PvP Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Ruin
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I'm also one to question the use of Ruin in affliction builds. The problem is, I do more damage with ruin, than with those talent points spent elsewhere. So it's a keeper. |
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March 11, 2009, 06:10 AM
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Andrčas 80 Blood Elf Warlock Magtheridon US PvP Guild: Unity Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Ruin
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March 11, 2009, 08:23 AM
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Ruin
Yeah, check out long boss fights. The top 2 highest % of your damage is SB, then Corruption easily being half or more of your total damage. |
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March 11, 2009, 08:49 AM
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Re: Ruin
Most of the talent information is wrong. Except for the ranks portion, which is right. The "Importance for Raiding" rank of this talent should be about 20 on a 1-10 scale. Along with Bane I believe Ruin is used in every single competitive raiding build since Wrath of the Lich King, and Burning Crusade, and probably vanilla wow as well. If you raid you are required to get Bane and Ruin, doesn't matter whether you are Affliction, Demo, Dest, shadow or fire. It's actually a rather poor implementation by Blizzard if you ask me. Making 15 points at a minimum being spent in Dest for any raiding build is limiting of our choices. But it is what it is. For raiding, simply the most important talent there is, along with Bane. For leveling and pvp its hard to rate, if you level or pvp as Destruction its very important, if you don't, then its not. |
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April 15, 2009, 12:27 PM
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calistto 80 Orc Warlock warsong US PvP Guild: Sociedade do Bode Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
I have a simple question. Why put talent points in the magic "ruin" in the tree "destruction", when the new patch, the "immolation" no longer works with "Unstable Afliction? thx a lot Moacir |
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April 15, 2009, 12:34 PM
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Soulrave 80 Gnome Warlock Dath'Remar Oceania PvE Guild: Novus Orsa Profile: Blizzard Armory |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
cos it works with shadowbolt 
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April 15, 2009, 12:42 PM
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calistto 80 Orc Warlock warsong US PvP Guild: Sociedade do Bode Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
I knew it shadownbolt was a destruction spell .... I play with a Warlock more than 2 years and did not know .... living, playing and learning ... hehehe Thx a lot. |
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April 15, 2009, 04:44 PM
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Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
The open question for me is "how much is Ruin worth"? Is 1 point enough? Or do you absolutely need 3 or 5 points in it for affliction? |
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