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November 05, 2008, 11:57 PM
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Ruin
Welcome to the discussion thread on everything "Ruin". Below you will find some useful information to give you a rough overview of this talent and how it comes into play, followed by comments, opinions and information from Warlocks who have first have experience with it. This thread is here to ask questions, seek advice and provide help and information on everything relating to Ruin. Please remember to keep all replies on topic and polite. Click here to read the entire individual talent thread
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April 15, 2009, 04:54 PM
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Hike 80 Undead Warlock Blackwing Lair US PvP Guild: Occam's Raiders Talent Spec: 54/0/17 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
any deep affliction build that's used for raiding will take 5/5 of ruin, and it would be silly not to ESPECIALLY after 3.1, considering we will now be using shadow bolts that much more often. all the numbers and research back this up - if you take one point out of ruin, you will not find any other place to put it which will increase your dps just as much. |
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April 15, 2009, 05:09 PM
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Satalitetv 80 Blood Elf Warlock Ravencrest US PvE Guild: Relic Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/15/54 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
I still don't see how some people still argue that ruin is worth taking 5 points into. Yes people, it makes your main nuke scale well with crit. Yes, you need to take all 5 points into it! I see way too many people that don't get this simple concept of shadowbolt being like 40% of your damage, which is why we want to make it was powerful as possible. |
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April 16, 2009, 08:43 AM
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Xavron 80 Gnome Warlock Moon Guard US RP PvE Guild: Veritas Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
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We're all quite aware that Ruin is important - telling us that without qualification doesn't do any good. At the moment, I'm trying to decide whether 2 more points in Eradication is better then 2 more points in Ruin. |
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April 16, 2009, 08:47 AM
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Aily 80 Human Warlock Doomhammer US PvE Guild: Arisen Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/1/17 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
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-Imp felhunter? Even though Divine spirit is now baseline and mage int has always been better? -Imp Healthstones? Even though the increase in healing done from it is not going to save your raid from a wipe? Really though? What is your build and why? |
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April 16, 2009, 01:05 PM
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Drazzak 80 Human Warlock Crushridge US PvP Guild: Empire of Knights Talent Spec: 0/14/57 |
Re: Patch 3.1 Affliction and Talent ruin (Dest)
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August 29, 2009, 07:23 AM
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Re: Ruin
Ruin is mandatory for all raiding builds, it is a large component in your ability to scale to crit. In the least shadowbolt heavy builds this adds about 1/4 of your crit chance to your damage done, over 5 talents. Which means that when you have a modest amount of gear, this will provide at least 1% per rank. With raid buffs it could be around 2% per rank. For a build which uses lots of destruction damage, it would be closer % more damage per talent point. That's a lot of damage for one talent. This is mandatory for pve. Like bane. Maxing it out is the only way to go. For an affliction build, those points are likely to be going into utility talents, on top of that, do consider that shadowbolt is half your damage, and that on short fights, it's considerably more. This talent is vital for nuking down short lived but dangerous adds, trash and more. |
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