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Old April 14, 2009, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)

Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

Now that patch 3.1 is out and we know more information. Please use this thread for all Glyph discussion for Destruction Builds.
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Old April 14, 2009, 08:04 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Nevariah
80 Undead Warlock
Sisters of Elune US RP Guild: Clique
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Build Discussion

For a Chaos Bolt build, what 3 glyphs are showing as the highest DPS increases?

I was thinking of taking Life Tap, Conflag and Imp (since it was boosted to 20%) but I wasn't sure if replacing any of them with the Chaos Bolt or Immolate glyph would raise the DPS.

Any feedback?
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Old April 14, 2009, 08:09 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Satalitetv
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Ravencrest US PvE
Guild: Relic
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/15/54
Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Build Discussion

I was thinking Immolate, Conflag, and Life Tap/CB

Now, the immolate ones does more than the imp one because of the fact that it also buffs conflagrate by quite a bit, and it also scales a bit better than the imp one.

Now, i noticed on the ptrs that the Life Tap/CB glyphs depend on gear. At lower levels of spirit (which is what I have for some reason... around 330 or something like that), you get more out of the CB glyph, at least when I was doing some tests. However, as you get more spirit the Life Tap glyph becomes more and more powerful, so it scales quite well with gear.
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Old April 14, 2009, 09:40 PM   #4 (permalink)

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80 Undead Warlock
Sisters of Elune US RP Guild: Clique
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

I'm in the same situation. I'm in a mix of Naxx 10/25 gear with around 300 spirit so I'm only gettin 60 spellpower from the Life Tap glyph. Is there a magic number of spirit we should reach BEFORE glyphing for Life Tap? I'm not convinced that getting 60 spellpower for 20 seconds is going to benefit me more than the Immolate or Chaos Bolt glyph.
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Old April 14, 2009, 10:08 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Nefastus
80 Gnome Warlock
The Scryers US RP Guild: Solace

Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

Regarding the Life Tap glyph, does anyone know whether its effect stacks with the 4pt7 bonus? I assume they will at least stack additively, but was wondering whether the 4pt7 bonus of +300 spirit would factor into the bonus calculation for the glyph while the effect is active. If so, that would mean an additional 60 spellpower for having both.

Example:
- 400 spirit base
- life tap and get +300 spirit from 4pt7 bonus (+90 or +117 spellpower depending on whether you have full demonic aegis)
- simultaneously get the glyph bonus calculated as 20% of 700 spirit (140 spellpower)
- result: +230/257 spellpower
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Old April 15, 2009, 01:50 AM   #6 (permalink)

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Tianshaan
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Terokkar US PvE
Guild: Vae Victus
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

You need to have 4pcT7 to use Life Tap glyph. If you don't have that, then use another glyph such as Incinerate.
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Old April 15, 2009, 04:35 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Kilmir
70 Gnome Warlock
Aszune Euro PvE
Guild: Been There Done That
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

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You need to have 4pcT7 to use Life Tap glyph. If you don't have that, then use another glyph such as Incinerate.
What TiaMaster means is that yes the 4T7 effect goes off first and then the Glyph Effect. The 300 boost from 4T7 is actually what makes the Glyph of Life Tap so good compared to other glyphs.
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Old April 15, 2009, 12:42 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Kabel
80 Human Warlock
Bloodhoof Euro PvE
Guild: Imperial Alliance

3.1 Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

So if i have 4pct7 i should use immo/life tap/conflag in a chaos bolt build. The incinerate or imp glyph aint better then anyone of them?

Using incinerate glyph atm couse its a pain to manage the imp on bosses like razorscale. And the Life tap glyph aint on AH yet.

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Old April 15, 2009, 08:31 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Pewtrid
80 Undead Warlock
Chromaggus US PvP
Guild: Merc for Hire
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 5/13/53
3.1 Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

The glyph of Life Tap wasn't available when I first logged in, so I am using Immo, Conflag, and Incinerate and its pretty fantastic. I'll let you know when I pick up Life Tap if its better and by how much.
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Old April 15, 2009, 09:24 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Argana
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3.1 Re: Patch 3.1 Destruction Glyphs - What will you use?

Well... off to Ulduar I went as 0/13/58 with Conflag, Immolate and a third choice of Incinerate (until Life Tap becomes available).

SimCraft suggested that at my top-T7 gear Incinerate is a better Glyph than Imp.

And on WWS I now find that Incinerate does almost as much damage as Chaos Bolt. Sure it's about 5% different but quite a lot of the time immolate had fallen off as I busily spammed incinerate during backdraft. Isn't Chaos Bolt meant to be worth putting all those talent points in to reach?
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