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May 23, 2009, 08:08 AM
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dlorddiablo 80 Human Warlock lightbringer Euro PvE Guild: evolutionofold Talent Spec: 0/51/20 |
immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
Hi Guys, i recently got the 2 piece set of t8 which gives 10% extra damage to immolate, so i was thinking should i use the incinerate glyph instead of the immolate one now? currently using : lifetap, immolate, conflag. Thanks D |
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May 23, 2009, 08:38 AM
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Jaelyn 80 Blood Elf Warlock Aszune Euro PvE Guild: Shadow of the Phoenix Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
Depends on what spec you are using, but I think the immolate glyph is always better than incinerate glyph, immolate has a higher dpct and incinerate scales with immolate. From you having the conflag glyph, i'm guessing you are either 00/40/31 or 00/13/58 (or at least full destro). For the hybrid i'd stick with what you have now, if you are full destro, you'd be better off using the immolate, conflagate and incinerate glyphs Last edited by Raging; May 23, 2009 at 08:40 AM.. |
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May 23, 2009, 08:50 AM
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Argana 80 Warlock Euro |
Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
Getting the 2 Piece Tier 8 bonus is going to make the benefits from the glyph higher, surely? So getting that second piece of T8 shouldn't be the reason for changing the glyph. (The bonuses stack) |
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May 23, 2009, 09:32 AM
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dlorddiablo 80 Human Warlock lightbringer Euro PvE Guild: evolutionofold Talent Spec: 0/51/20 |
Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
yea deep destro, yea i suppose the 2 immolate buffs with stack and that will increase the damage done by conflag if i am not mistaking. |
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May 23, 2009, 11:32 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
Looking at my test dummy results, incinerate accounts for more than 50% of my damage, while immolate + conflagrate are more in the 25%-30% region, for a deep destro build. So buffing incinerate damage by 5% should have more or less the same effect on dps as buffing immo+conflag by 10% (assuming that it buffs conflagrate damage accordingly). Right now I see people suggesting the glyphs of conflagrate, incinerate and life tap, and replacing the life tap glyph by the immolate glyph for specs with improved soul leech. I'm currently not aware of any mechanics that would make incinerate scale with immolates damage, what are you referring to Raging? As has been noted before, getting the T8 bonus increases the value of the immolate glyph, since the effects stack. |
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May 23, 2009, 12:20 PM
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dlorddiablo 80 Human Warlock lightbringer Euro PvE Guild: evolutionofold Talent Spec: 0/51/20 |
Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
good point actually i ahve improved soul leech, and have now broken the 4 piece t7 set, i think i should prob replace my lifetap glyph with incinerate, and run with immolate, incinerate, conflag, what ye think? |
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May 23, 2009, 12:43 PM
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Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
Fallenman had an answer about this in his 3.1.2 wrap up I do believe. I think he said the increase to your main nuke outweighed the other. But please check it. Quote:
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May 23, 2009, 01:28 PM
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Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
I can't understand why people are selling the lifetap glyph short, in the destro build. I wont argue the fact that on paper immolate, incinerate and conflage glyphs appear to put out more damage, but simulcraft isn't game play. I did run with these glyphs but have since gone back to life tap, due to the amount of movement. You stay in the wrong place 1 second to long and the best healer in the world wont save you. I move out of a void zone thingy TAP (Lv1) 130 extra spell power, I run from an eye beam TAP 130 sp, I run to get on to some snow mound TAP, I run from some blue flame a dragon sends down TAP, I run to stand in front of some chick with a heap of cats, guess what TAP and so on and so on. Of course you may want to throw an instant in there as well, just for the hell of it, so its tap an extra 130 spell on top of Curse of Agony/CORRif you have the time. In my case the taps also assist with keeping up IODS and I often see Lightweave proc as well. I'll take a free 130Sp for every individual spell cast, over 10% gain in periodic damage of only 1 spell any day of the week. |
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May 23, 2009, 01:52 PM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: immolate Glyph and t8 bonus
So raid buffed I'm running around with 3.5k spellpower on average (T7gear!), maybe a bit less now as destro lock. Thats still without trinklet procs. Some 130 spellpower increase my total damage by 3% maybe. A 10% damage increase for a spell that accounts for 30% of my total damage does the same, plus I have guaranteed 100% uptime. |
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May 23, 2009, 03:10 PM
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DoomOracle 80 Undead Warlock Cho'gall US PvP Guild: J U G G E R N A U T Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/14/54 |
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