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June 04, 2009, 04:15 AM
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0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
Read the topics about this spec and everyone's putting imo, confl, inc glyphs. Why doesn't anyone put LT glyph? I just want to know how better are the other glyphs? For example incenerate glyph? And a question about a rotation. I start with CoD/E => Immo => CB => Confl => Inc, Inc, Inc ... So there is this part that confuses me: When casting an immolate, after it has been applied I still have my conflagrate spell disabled for a half of a sec or something like that, CB doesn't have it so I pull it off first, is this right? And the second, what is better in dps - Backdrafted CB+INC+INC and then non backdrafted INC or Backdrafted INC INC INC and then CB? CB has a lower cast time, so clipping off 30% of the cast for the longer casts will be better, or am I wrong? |
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June 04, 2009, 07:00 AM
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Mandragoria 80 Human Warlock Ysondre Euro PvP Guild: CyA Heroes Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
Glyph Of Life Tap doesn't worth it in 0/13/58 because you have Improved Soul Leech, which allows you to go through many fights without the NEED to Life Tap, just because you got enough mana. Plus, it has been proved that LifeTapping once every 20 secs can result in a loss of DPS, even with the +damage buff of the ILT Glyph. For the immolate conflag problem, the best thing to do is what you suggested, Immolate > CB > Conflagrate, juste because you won't be able to cast Conflagrate as soon as Immolate lands on your target (thx lag). Concerning your last point, personnaly, I cast Chaos Bolt whenever its cooldown is up, as long as the immolate DoT is still up on the target. I don't think you should keep your chaos bolt cast up waiting for Backdraft, or waiting for the Chaos Bolt cooldown while you have your last Bacdraft stack. But, i've got one question for you deep destro guys. This spec's rotation is rather simple, but when you start it, it looks like this : CoD > Immolate > Chaos Bolt > Conflag > Spam Incinerate > Conflag > ... Okay, stop, once you've casted your second Conflag, there is 2 seconds left on the Chaos Bolt cooldown, and 3~4 seconds left on the Immolate DoT. What do you usually do ? I usually do : ... > Incinerate > Immolate > Chaos Bolt The incinerate cast may not land while immolate DoT is still up, but the reason why i'm doing this is clearly because i want my Chaos Bolt to land while Immolate DoT is up. DPS-wise, it seems reasonable, but I lose like 2~3 seconds after the Chaos Bolt cooldown refresh. Is it better to cast a Chaos Bolt as soon as it is available, or take the time to cast immolate then Chaos Bolt ? |
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June 04, 2009, 08:22 AM
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Kintarooe 80 Human Warlock crushridge Euro PvP Guild: la Quinta Essenza Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
very often i cast another immolate before cb to have the Cb landing with immo up. sometimes immolate lands after the last tick of previous immolate. with my latency, i begin to cast immolate when 2 or 3 sec left of the previous immolate. (if more than 3 sec remain from immolate dot, cb or another immolate ^^ ) Sorry for bad english. |
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June 04, 2009, 08:29 AM
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Annaria 80 Human Warlock Draenor Euro PvE Guild: The Zoo Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/0/17 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
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Other times I just do the extra incinerate and then immolate-> CB |
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June 04, 2009, 10:10 AM
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Zamp 80 Blood Elf Warlock Stormreaver US PvP Guild: Elusive Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
Wouldnt the best use of GCD's or the initial rotation be; Immolate -> CoD -> Conflag -> Chaos Bolt -> Incin Spam And then priority rotation starts? |
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June 04, 2009, 10:22 AM
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Warobi 80 Human Warlock Hyjal US PvE Guild: Beyond Eternity Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
It was my understanding that the LT glyph worked best with the four piece T7 gear. Is that not true? |
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June 04, 2009, 10:36 AM
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Zamp 80 Blood Elf Warlock Stormreaver US PvP Guild: Elusive Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
Well, I don't think this is true in the 13/58 Destro build is kind of a waste. Your specced replinishment, which gives your mana back which always means less life tip more damage uptime. Here is Fallenman's clarification of the Life Tap hysteria Lifetap Glyph FAQ |
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June 04, 2009, 10:39 AM
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Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
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So my theory on this is even though the immolate falls off, as long as incin leaves your hands before immo falls off, that is all that matters. Or mabye even just starting the cast of incin before immo falls off. This is something easily tested at a test dummy. But I am still rocking affliction even though the damage is going away fast. |
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June 04, 2009, 10:48 AM
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Iknus 80 Human Warlock Korialstrasz US PvE Guild: http://wowmb.net/forums/Order of Magnitude Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
Is anyone using or have a macro for this build, trying to combine or macro part of this 
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June 04, 2009, 10:50 AM
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Zamp 80 Blood Elf Warlock Stormreaver US PvP Guild: Elusive Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: 0/13/58 glyphs and rotation
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I think the buff has to be present for it to take effect, since your spell isnt buffed from immolate until it lands on the boss. So if immolate falls of .5 seconds before your incinerate lands, the buff from immolate is no longer there, therefor not giving the damage increase. I could be wrong though. Just brainstorming. |
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