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Old October 19, 2009, 06:48 AM   #41 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

3.2 Re: Destro Glyphs

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Originally Posted by Mardal View Post
Why is Glyph of incinerate better than immmolate?
To me the math is pretty simple...

Lets say a warlocks damage consist of:

45% incinerate
20% Conflagrate
10% immolate DoT
+15% random

Glyph of immolate would affect both the 20% conflagrate and 10% immolate DoT by 10%, while glyph of incinerate would only affect the 45% by 5%.

So that would be an DPS inscrease of 3% from immolate vs 2.25% from incinerate.

If glyph of incinerate is better, was is wrong with this equation?
Well, the problem is that you can't prove anything with made up numbers. In simulations, incinerate contributes to 55% of the lock's damage. On the other hand, conflagrate + immolate together do less than 25% of the total damage, and this includes the non-dot part of immolate. This agrees with the numbers I see ingame.

Now in most fights we have to move, so we'll get a few incinerates less. I went through my reports. The only fight where I found that conflagrate + immolate dot did more than one half of the damage done by incinerate is Anub'Arak. Now you might want to change your glyph for that fight... I wouldn't do it. The most important phase is phase three, where you just stand and nuke the boss.
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Old October 19, 2009, 08:27 AM   #42 (permalink)

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Lolu
80 Undead Warlock
Laughing Skull Euro PvP

3.2 Re: Destro Glyphs

I have been looking through some WoW meter online.

Lets say 66% of the damage from immolate is the dot
(sorry for making up numbers again)

The count looks like this:

Onyxia 25: 20,8% immo + conflag vs. 35,6% incinerate

Iron council 25 normal: 27,85% vs. 50,3%

Anub 25 normal: 27,4% vs. 47,2%

Twins HC 25: 27,6% vs 42,5%

These numbers are from a warlock with incinerate glyph and not immolate!
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Old October 21, 2009, 08:31 AM   #43 (permalink)
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3.2 Re: Destro Glyphs

I was using glyphs LT, incini, confl. And after switching LT with Immo glyph I had noticeable dps increase (with stats ~2200sp and ~380spirit, hit caped and ISL 0/13/58)
So to sum up things - around how much spirit people should have even before considering switching Immo with LT glyph ? 400+ ...500+ ??
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Old October 21, 2009, 09:32 AM   #44 (permalink)

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80 Orc Warlock
Barthilas US PvP
Guild: Serendipity
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3.2 Re: Destro Glyphs

I have just under 3000spell power and about 550spirit unbuffed and i have found that the life tap glyph and immolate is very similar.
I NEVER have to lifetap as destruction because of talents. I lifetap when i cant be dpsing. The time wasted in lifetapping to get the lifetap glyph kept up is a dps loss. Its obvious, your not attacking. With the immolate glyph i am constantly attacking but doing a little bit less damage with everything other then immolate and conflag. The dps difference in the two is tiny if any.

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Old November 08, 2009, 09:43 AM   #45 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Balnazzar Euro PvP
Guild: Phobia
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/20/51
3.2 Re: Destro Glyphs

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Well, the problem is that you can't prove anything with made up numbers.
1624 tests and simulations have proven the opposite.
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Old November 08, 2009, 09:57 AM   #46 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Thunderlord US PvP
Guild: Ka Tet Corp
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Talent Spec: 0/14/57
3.2 Re: Destro Glyphs

im using glyph of chaos bolt, incin, and conflag should i switch out CB for life tap?
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Old November 08, 2009, 09:58 AM   #47 (permalink)

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Terenas Euro PvE

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yes.
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