Aldor vs Scryer

Bhrudwo · January 12, 2007, 08:54 PM

Anyone have any thoughts on which will be the better for locks?
As I am tailoring/skinning (soon to be jewelcrafting) i am thinking Aldor.
Comments/Discuss

boojapho · January 12, 2007, 09:23 PM

I was leaning towards Aldor at first for the Auchenai staff and the Anchorite's Robe. Then I looked up other drops in BC and I think an equivalent staff & robe might be easy enough to get. Not sure if the other robes have the sockets though.
Scryer has a nice Seer's Signet at Exalted. Doesn't look like any nicer rings have dropped in BC yet. But I'm not sure I'll ever get to Exalted.

I'm still undecided. I'd like to hear other's opinions too.

Cvijafaq · January 13, 2007, 05:23 AM

Links with faction rewards pretty please. :]

Kirium · January 13, 2007, 05:30 AM

what are the aldor and scryer?

Mystique · January 13, 2007, 05:33 AM

The main city in the Outlands (Shattrath City) is neutral, but houses two conflicting factions. Players must choose a faction to affiliate with and gain access to banking facilities, etc. Once you become friends with one group - you will be an enemy of the other. These two groups are the Aldor and the Scryers.

According to the WowWiki, the Aldor are an ancient order of Draenei priests and the Scryers are a group of Blood Elves who broke away from Prince Kael’thas. Both groups now compete to win favor with the Naaru who control Shattrath City.

It might seem obvious that the Aldor are Alliance-oriented and the Scryers are Horde. One of the beauties of this system is that players can opt to “cross party lines” and make friends with the opposing group. One of the main benefits of choosing a faction is to gain access to new recipes and gear. For the professions that make armor, the Scryers’ recipes allow you to make gear with arcane resist. The recipes from the Aldor will allow you to craft fire resist gear, predominantly. There are some other items they sell as well, but minimally represented. Alchemists will probably want to go Scryer since the Aldor don’t have any Alchie recipes.

Other than gaining access to specific types of resist gear, the choice is completely personal. There’s no reason not to go with whichever group sells items or recipes you want to have for your character. Or specific items you believe will be strong sellers in general. Apparently the Scryers will probably less popular with Alliance players, so if you go Scryer you may end up with recipes that have higher demand (or less competition with other crafters).

Mystique · January 13, 2007, 05:38 AM

Some example items:

Auchenai Staff
Binds when picked up
Unique Two-Hand Staff
92 - 172 Damage
Speed 2.10 (62.8 damage per second)
+46 Intellect
Requires Level 70
Requires The Aldor - Revered
Equip: Improves spell hit rating by 19.
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 26.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 121.

Anchorite's Robes
Binds when picked up
Unique Chest Cloth
156 Armor
+16 Stamina
+38 Intellect
+18 Spirit
Yellow Socket
Blue Socket
Yellow Socket
Socket Bonus: 2 mana per 5 sec.
Requires Level 70
Requires The Aldor - Honored
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 29.

Seer's Signet
Binds when picked up
Unique Finger
+22 Stamina
Requires Level 70
Requires The Scryers - Exalted
Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 11.
Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 33.

grishnak · January 13, 2007, 05:39 AM

Allright here's a link to wowwiki's page. You can also find the rewards by looking up the 2 factions on thottbotbeta

however people in my guild that went far in the beta have told me that these infos weren't correct, and that several rewards were in fact from the opposite faction. Some of them have a very strong "coloration" in their name so i believe thotbot and wowwiki aren't 100% wrong. So.. Take this carefully :p

http://www.wowwiki.com/Aldor_vs._Scryer

Kirium · January 13, 2007, 06:08 AM

that's a great explanation. Thanks!

darkblayde · January 13, 2007, 08:18 AM

from what im seeing on that link, IF all info is accurate, it will be a better choice for a warlock to go with the Aldor...unless, of course, one faction has a specific recipe you want. for me, it looks far more likely that i will have to go with the Aldor (stupid alliance making it necessary for me to be friendly...sigh)

Mefistofeles · January 13, 2007, 09:35 AM

Yeah, I'm agreeing with the above poster. Just looking at the info from WoWWiki, I'd have to say that the Aldor is much more rewarding for a Warlock. The only item that I saw from the Scryers that really caught my eye was the exaulted ring, and it was kinda outweighed by all the other goodies from the Aldor. I guess we will see if all that info is correct come The Burning Crusade.

January 12, 2007, 08:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bhrudwo Lurker Character Info Bhrudwo 60 Undead Warlock Blackrock US PvP Guild: AlterElectus Talent Spec: 7/44/0	Aldor vs Scryer Anyone have any thoughts on which will be the better for locks? As I am tailoring/skinning (soon to be jewelcrafting) i am thinking Aldor. Comments/Discuss

January 12, 2007, 09:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
boojapho Lurker Character Info Smisha 67 Gnome Warlock Whisperwind US PvE Guild: Abyss	Re: Aldor vs Scryer I was leaning towards Aldor at first for the Auchenai staff and the Anchorite's Robe. Then I looked up other drops in BC and I think an equivalent staff & robe might be easy enough to get. Not sure if the other robes have the sockets though. Scryer has a nice Seer's Signet at Exalted. Doesn't look like any nicer rings have dropped in BC yet. But I'm not sure I'll ever get to Exalted. I'm still undecided. I'd like to hear other's opinions too.

January 13, 2007, 05:23 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cvijafaq Member Character Info Heartsalive 70 Human Warlock Thunderhorn Euro PvE Guild: Ultra Cohesion Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Aldor vs Scryer Links with faction rewards pretty please. :]

January 13, 2007, 05:30 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kirium Member Character Info Muirik 70 Human Warlock Archimonde US PvP Guild: Dead Presidents Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 47/13/1	Re: Aldor vs Scryer what are the aldor and scryer?

January 13, 2007, 05:33 AM	#5 (permalink)
Mystique Member	Re: Aldor vs Scryer The main city in the Outlands (Shattrath City) is neutral, but houses two conflicting factions. Players must choose a faction to affiliate with and gain access to banking facilities, etc. Once you become friends with one group - you will be an enemy of the other. These two groups are the Aldor and the Scryers. According to the WowWiki, the Aldor are an ancient order of Draenei priests and the Scryers are a group of Blood Elves who broke away from Prince Kael’thas. Both groups now compete to win favor with the Naaru who control Shattrath City. It might seem obvious that the Aldor are Alliance-oriented and the Scryers are Horde. One of the beauties of this system is that players can opt to “cross party lines” and make friends with the opposing group. One of the main benefits of choosing a faction is to gain access to new recipes and gear. For the professions that make armor, the Scryers’ recipes allow you to make gear with arcane resist. The recipes from the Aldor will allow you to craft fire resist gear, predominantly. There are some other items they sell as well, but minimally represented. Alchemists will probably want to go Scryer since the Aldor don’t have any Alchie recipes. Other than gaining access to specific types of resist gear, the choice is completely personal. There’s no reason not to go with whichever group sells items or recipes you want to have for your character. Or specific items you believe will be strong sellers in general. Apparently the Scryers will probably less popular with Alliance players, so if you go Scryer you may end up with recipes that have higher demand (or less competition with other crafters).

January 13, 2007, 05:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mystique Member	Re: Aldor vs Scryer Some example items: Auchenai Staff Binds when picked up Unique Two-Hand Staff 92 - 172 Damage Speed 2.10 (62.8 damage per second) +46 Intellect Requires Level 70 Requires The Aldor - Revered Equip: Improves spell hit rating by 19. Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 26. Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 121. Anchorite's Robes Binds when picked up Unique Chest Cloth 156 Armor +16 Stamina +38 Intellect +18 Spirit Yellow Socket Blue Socket Yellow Socket Socket Bonus: 2 mana per 5 sec. Requires Level 70 Requires The Aldor - Honored Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 29. Seer's Signet Binds when picked up Unique Finger +22 Stamina Requires Level 70 Requires The Scryers - Exalted Equip: Improves spell critical strike rating by 11. Equip: Increases damage and healing done by magical spells and effects by up to 33.

January 13, 2007, 05:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
grishnak Member Character Info Grishnak 70 Orc Warlock Sargeras Euro PvP Guild: Mélancolie Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 26/35/0	Re: Aldor vs Scryer Allright here's a link to wowwiki's page. You can also find the rewards by looking up the 2 factions on thottbotbeta however people in my guild that went far in the beta have told me that these infos weren't correct, and that several rewards were in fact from the opposite faction. Some of them have a very strong "coloration" in their name so i believe thotbot and wowwiki aren't 100% wrong. So.. Take this carefully :p http://www.wowwiki.com/Aldor_vs._Scryer

January 13, 2007, 06:08 AM	#8 (permalink)
Kirium Member Character Info Muirik 70 Human Warlock Archimonde US PvP Guild: Dead Presidents Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 47/13/1	Re: Aldor vs Scryer that's a great explanation. Thanks!

January 13, 2007, 08:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
darkblayde Member Character Info Darkblayde 70 Undead Warlock Tanaris US PvE Guild: Renewal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 48/2/11	Re: Aldor vs Scryer from what im seeing on that link, IF all info is accurate, it will be a better choice for a warlock to go with the Aldor...unless, of course, one faction has a specific recipe you want. for me, it looks far more likely that i will have to go with the Aldor (stupid alliance making it necessary for me to be friendly...sigh)

January 13, 2007, 09:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
Mefistofeles Lurker Character Info Mefistofeles 70 Undead Warlock Zangarmarsh US PvE	Re: Aldor vs Scryer Yeah, I'm agreeing with the above poster. Just looking at the info from WoWWiki, I'd have to say that the Aldor is much more rewarding for a Warlock. The only item that I saw from the Scryers that really caught my eye was the exaulted ring, and it was kinda outweighed by all the other goodies from the Aldor. I guess we will see if all that info is correct come The Burning Crusade.