Baron Rivendare

Wencit · April 19, 2006, 10:30 PM

Ok, does anyone know any good strats killing Baron in UD Strath? I've never actually tried to 5 man him before the 1.10 patch, just the standard zerg. Last night I tried my first 5 man of UD Strath and we did okay until we got to Baron. We weren't trying to do the whole 45 minute thing, just wanted to finish some quests so our warrior could get the Argent Avenger sword for turning in Baron's Head. We didn't wipe at all until Baron. Baroness was the hardest of the mini-bosses, but our group handled it pretty good.

The group I usually run instances with lately is myself(Warlock), a prot. spec. warrior, a pally, a resto druid, then usually a rogue. I usually do the AoE aftter the warrior gets aggro. I'm 21/30/0. I usually have the imp out for the reduced threat. The pally switches between healing and doing damage (she loves killng undead). The Druid mostly focuses on healing the warrior. The rogue does what rogues do best, sap/kick/blind etc., and of course DPS. For the baron I was on AoE/skeleton duty. I started out using rank 4 RoF, but someone told me that rank 2 does the trick without using alot of mana. I Amp Curse of Agony, corruption, Siphon Life, and Immolate baron then concentrate on killing Skellies. Did alright the first attempt, got him down to around 14% or so before I and the healers ran outta mana :(.

Pally used SS and we gave it another try. This time I sacced a VW for good HP Regen, also this time i remembered to use the holy water when low on mana. The HP regen helped a bit, but we only got him down to 4% before I was outta mana and baron mananged to sac his skellies for a big heal. Any tips on what we might be able to do to actually kill him the next time we go there?

I'm thinking next time to try and sac a felpuppy for the mana regen, as I have more mana than HP usually and I'd be able to actually cast alot more with the mana regen going. I'm also thinking rank 3 RoF would do the trick as rank 2 just didn't seem to cut it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jebthegreat1 · April 19, 2006, 11:20 PM

When you do not have a mage in the group for extra damage dishing at range, the best strategy I have found for downing the baron (36 runs, 11 of them 5 man, have downed the baron each time, save for 3 runs), is to DS the succy.Ã‚ That extra shadow damage kick can make all the difference in the world.Ã‚ I have been switching back and forth between CoS and Curse of Agony depending on the situation.Ã‚ Also toss on corruption, then shadow bolt in between aoe'ing with either RoF (or hellfire if I have a priest with damage shield).

I have 4600 health unbuffed, 4500 mana.Ã‚ I also have 189 damage bonuses from my gear (that rune of the dead really helps).

The times that I did wipe, I was using imp for health buff.Ã‚ In the long run, not needed.Ã‚ I was always still alive and just kept running out of mana, while the baron was at 20% health or so.Ã‚ Switch out to DS succy and never look back.

By the by, I am horde, my standard grp is tank, priest, me (lock for life), shaman, and then either hunter/rogue/mage depending on what is available.

Hope this helps, good luck to ya' alliance.

Wencit · April 20, 2006, 12:00 AM

Thanks for the tip, I'll try it out and see if that will make the difference. Was also thinking about maybe CoD. But not sure if it'll out damage 2 Curse of Agony's with the DS Succy buff. Prolly try out both and see which works out.

psilocybe · April 20, 2006, 08:52 AM

Hehe, if you're using over a minute on getting the baron killed, you're definitely doing something wrong.

Have everybody stand in a relatively tight group, and take turns on using holy water. No use wasting mana on aoe when you have aoe bottled up, freely available outside.

Did a few runs a few days ago (to get my last abomination stitchings for Cap of the scarlet savant), and I think we used 30 seconds on downing the baron. Skeletons spawned two times. Imp was used, build is 7/21/23.

Wencit · April 20, 2006, 09:24 PM

Wow, 30 seconds on a hard boss like baron? What are you in mostly purples? I'm not doubting your word, but wow.....that just blows me away. What specific tactics did you use? What was your group composition? Just wanted to get an idea of what happens to kill him that fast. Thanks

psilocybe · April 21, 2006, 04:15 AM

Well, we're guildies who do MC/ZG and have a few purple bits and bobs, but nothing over tier 1. The group consisted of warrior (arms/fury, as far as I know) with TUF and some PvP-gear, shaman, again with TUF and PvP-gear, rogue with Lobotomizer and legionnaire-outfit, me (stuff in signature) and a druid as healer (wildheart + some cenarion). Windfury totem was up all time, and contributed with a fair amount of damage.

Didn't bother with sunders, I just let the warrior get a few hits in before I shadowbolted/cursed.

April 19, 2006, 10:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
Wencit Member Character Info Bahzell 60 Gnome Warlock Rexxar US PvE Guild: Gothic Justice Profile: CTProfile	Baron Rivendare Ok, does anyone know any good strats killing Baron in UD Strath? I've never actually tried to 5 man him before the 1.10 patch, just the standard zerg. Last night I tried my first 5 man of UD Strath and we did okay until we got to Baron. We weren't trying to do the whole 45 minute thing, just wanted to finish some quests so our warrior could get the Argent Avenger sword for turning in Baron's Head. We didn't wipe at all until Baron. Baroness was the hardest of the mini-bosses, but our group handled it pretty good. The group I usually run instances with lately is myself(Warlock), a prot. spec. warrior, a pally, a resto druid, then usually a rogue. I usually do the AoE aftter the warrior gets aggro. I'm 21/30/0. I usually have the imp out for the reduced threat. The pally switches between healing and doing damage (she loves killng undead). The Druid mostly focuses on healing the warrior. The rogue does what rogues do best, sap/kick/blind etc., and of course DPS. For the baron I was on AoE/skeleton duty. I started out using rank 4 RoF, but someone told me that rank 2 does the trick without using alot of mana. I Amp Curse of Agony, corruption, Siphon Life, and Immolate baron then concentrate on killing Skellies. Did alright the first attempt, got him down to around 14% or so before I and the healers ran outta mana :(. Pally used SS and we gave it another try. This time I sacced a VW for good HP Regen, also this time i remembered to use the holy water when low on mana. The HP regen helped a bit, but we only got him down to 4% before I was outta mana and baron mananged to sac his skellies for a big heal. Any tips on what we might be able to do to actually kill him the next time we go there? I'm thinking next time to try and sac a felpuppy for the mana regen, as I have more mana than HP usually and I'd be able to actually cast alot more with the mana regen going. I'm also thinking rank 3 RoF would do the trick as rank 2 just didn't seem to cut it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

April 19, 2006, 11:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jebthegreat1 Registered	Re: Baron Rivendare When you do not have a mage in the group for extra damage dishing at range, the best strategy I have found for downing the baron (36 runs, 11 of them 5 man, have downed the baron each time, save for 3 runs), is to DS the succy.Ã‚ That extra shadow damage kick can make all the difference in the world.Ã‚ I have been switching back and forth between CoS and Curse of Agony depending on the situation.Ã‚ Also toss on corruption, then shadow bolt in between aoe'ing with either RoF (or hellfire if I have a priest with damage shield). I have 4600 health unbuffed, 4500 mana.Ã‚ I also have 189 damage bonuses from my gear (that rune of the dead really helps). The times that I did wipe, I was using imp for health buff.Ã‚ In the long run, not needed.Ã‚ I was always still alive and just kept running out of mana, while the baron was at 20% health or so.Ã‚ Switch out to DS succy and never look back. By the by, I am horde, my standard grp is tank, priest, me (lock for life), shaman, and then either hunter/rogue/mage depending on what is available. Hope this helps, good luck to ya' alliance.

April 20, 2006, 12:00 AM	#3 (permalink)
Wencit Member Character Info Bahzell 60 Gnome Warlock Rexxar US PvE Guild: Gothic Justice Profile: CTProfile	Re: Baron Rivendare Thanks for the tip, I'll try it out and see if that will make the difference. Was also thinking about maybe CoD. But not sure if it'll out damage 2 Curse of Agony's with the DS Succy buff. Prolly try out both and see which works out.

April 20, 2006, 08:52 AM	#4 (permalink)
psilocybe Member Character Info Suture 70 Undead Warlock Sylvanas Euro PvP Guild: Midvinter Profile: Allakhazams Talent Spec: 46/14/0	Re: Baron Rivendare Hehe, if you're using over a minute on getting the baron killed, you're definitely doing something wrong. Have everybody stand in a relatively tight group, and take turns on using holy water. No use wasting mana on aoe when you have aoe bottled up, freely available outside. Did a few runs a few days ago (to get my last abomination stitchings for Cap of the scarlet savant), and I think we used 30 seconds on downing the baron. Skeletons spawned two times. Imp was used, build is 7/21/23.

April 20, 2006, 09:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Wencit Member Character Info Bahzell 60 Gnome Warlock Rexxar US PvE Guild: Gothic Justice Profile: CTProfile	Re: Baron Rivendare Wow, 30 seconds on a hard boss like baron? What are you in mostly purples? I'm not doubting your word, but wow.....that just blows me away. What specific tactics did you use? What was your group composition? Just wanted to get an idea of what happens to kill him that fast. Thanks

April 21, 2006, 04:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
psilocybe Member Character Info Suture 70 Undead Warlock Sylvanas Euro PvP Guild: Midvinter Profile: Allakhazams Talent Spec: 46/14/0	Re: Baron Rivendare Well, we're guildies who do MC/ZG and have a few purple bits and bobs, but nothing over tier 1. The group consisted of warrior (arms/fury, as far as I know) with TUF and some PvP-gear, shaman, again with TUF and PvP-gear, rogue with Lobotomizer and legionnaire-outfit, me (stuff in signature) and a druid as healer (wildheart + some cenarion). Windfury totem was up all time, and contributed with a fair amount of damage. Didn't bother with sunders, I just let the warrior get a few hits in before I shadowbolted/cursed.