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May 07, 2009, 01:47 AM
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Ulduar Boss Optimization - Discussion Thread
OK as most of you know already all warlock raiding specs are so close to each other on charts right now as you can see in theorycraft; it really depends on the boss encounter to get max dps from each one. Here is a list what i think which boss encounter should get max dps from which spec : (non hardmodes) Razorscale : Loads of adds to burst, Also need to get quick burst on landing. FG/ember > Destro > Aff Ignis : Adds here can be dealt by a mage or hunter. And moving is minimal. Aff > FG/ember = Destro XT-002 : Need to get burst on hearth also need burst and aoe/stun on adds. Destro > FG/ember > Aff Iron Council : +%50 percent damage from rune works miracles for affliction here. As you do not need any kinda burst in this encounter aff tops the charts. Aff > Destro > FG/ember Kologarn : Minimal movement, almost no burst needed unless you are using some crazy tactic. Aff = FG/ember = Destro Auriaya : Loads of interrupts and target switching. Causing cycle breaks. FG/ember > Aff = Destro Hodir : This fight is special cuz it rly depends on the playing style. You may want to go aff cuz of constant moving or you may want to get better use of the buffs the fight gives and go other specs. ( crazy +crit damage ). But in the end aff will lose by far. FG/ember = Destro > Aff Thorim : We must include the guantlet and the arena parts as the boss. So you will need the burst damage most of the time. But if you think your raid will carry, you can go aff for the real boss encounter. FG/ember = Destro > Aff Freya : Same as Hodir this fight also has some trivial enterance. Loads of target switching may be good for Aff multi targeters. You will also need some AoE which can be done by SoC awesomely on here. (altho my experiences tells me that FG/ember is pretty darn good for this boss's multi targeting in theorycraft aff should have done better.) Aff> FG/ember = Destro Mimiron : (Ahh best encounter in Ulduar by far.) Minimal movement and less target switching makes this fight great for caster dps. But pet handle is hard here cuz they tend to die a lot in mines and/or shock blast. If you are the chosen tank for p3/p4 go Aff if not go destro. I would not recommend FG/ember here. Aff = Destro > FG/ember Vezax : OK here is another special fight for warlocks. For the first time in your playing life you may see the "zero" mana. So you have to be carefull about your mana. And on this fight dpsing out of the shadow crash buff is waste. So its ruling out aff, its not a wise choice here. Because putting dots up without the buff is costing too much mana. And you need every littlle drip of that mana  For you here its like this get in the ShadowCrash do your burst for 10 seconds and go look for another one. If you try to put dots everytime you go in ShadowCrash you wont have time to do SB spam which is now most of your dps. So take the other specs here.FG/ember > Destro > Aff Yogg-Saron : OK this fight has a lot of different phases and mobs to deal with i dont think i can explain them all in here. But from my experience and the videos and tactics i have read : Every spec works great here. But if you have come up to him you should already have a favorite spec to play. Choose your favorite or the spec which you play best. Cuz you will need every number of your damage output  Aff = Destro = FG/ember Thanks for reading so far. If you want to add something up or fix it please do  These all are from my point of wiev so if you have your toughts for the bosses please do not hesitate to make your list which will help a lot of people.(I ruled out meta as this is the maximizing dps chart also ruled out 0/40/31 after last talent changes on conflagration.) Last edited by impster; May 07, 2009 at 02:09 AM.. |
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May 07, 2009, 04:22 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
re: Ulduar Boss Optimization - Discussion Thread
nice one, although I actually see "=" on some more fights, e.g. Iron Council... my soul fires crit for 30k+ when I stand in the buff... but maybe affliction gains a bit more  Ignis is really an affliction fight... damn jets, and dots always keep ticking I don't see affliction that good on Freya. You might have the possibility to deal a lot of damage, but, you don't want your dots to kill the elementals too early, and AoE wise other specs are still better... I have yet to see it, but I heard Yogg-Saron is very pet unfriendly, so FG/Emberstorm might not be the ideal choice for it? What do you think? PS: Destro is actually even more ruled out than 40/31 at the moment And meta can do an incredibly good job when burst damage is required, besides being a high dps spec anyways... well, its your choice
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May 07, 2009, 04:34 AM
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May 07, 2009, 11:46 AM
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FG/Ember isn't higher dps on any fight than the deep affliction or 40/31 builds. And in 3.1.2 it definitely won't be higher than the deep aff and destruction builds. Also, FG/Ember is useless on Yogg since your felguard can't even dps your main target for the majority of the fight. |
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May 07, 2009, 01:25 PM
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The only thing I'd change is on the Yogg encounter (both 10 and 25). I've tried Distro and Affilction and our other lock has tried 41/30. Everything else STINKS compared to Affliction. During P1 you throw up 3 dots then SB the mobs unitl stop DPS is called...win. P2 I dot up all tenticles on my way to the crushers...win. And in P3 for casters it's stand and fight until you have to turn around, even then you have your instants...win. All in all our other lock gets destroyed when she's 41/30 and we're ALWAYS top two in DPS by a large margin when both aff. Very fun and complex fight where affliciton easily dominates. Just my perspective. |
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May 08, 2009, 08:04 AM
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On Vezax deep destro is king ... backlash when in pools is win win. Plus the mana cost is very low on your spells |
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May 08, 2009, 08:25 AM
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Wizlock 80 Human Warlock EU-Dragonblight Euro PvE Guild: Royal Vanguard Talent Spec: 2/53/16 |
re: Ulduar Boss Optimization - Discussion Thread
Very interesting post. I have yet too little experience in Ulduar (not killed anything after Hodir and Thorim) to contribute, but from a readers point of view I would also like to see which Pet to use on which boss here in this "guide". I have dualspecced Affli and FG/Ember but not really sure when I can have a dps:ing pet that will survive. |
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May 08, 2009, 10:26 AM
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May 08, 2009, 10:36 AM
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Slex 80 Undead Warlock Sporeggar Euro PvP Guild: Zakon Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/0/17 |
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