Infernal - Very Disappointed

Shadow_Warlock · May 06, 2007, 07:15 PM

Ok so after 14 deaths..5 rebuilds on my armor (Kroshius does hit like a freight train..oh the pain..) and more &#***$$* hours i care to share i finally soloed Kroshius as a level 52 affy lock...it was VERY painful and i figure great so now i get a greaat new tough pet right?..WRONG...he is crap..

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Costs money to summon (not that expensive..but still is coin..)

Hits like VW + a bit and dies so much quicker..I summoned him at searing gorge and he got taken out by 4 taskmaster dwarfs...

One hour cooldown on the spell ??..

Finally ~5mins before he tries to attack you

I mean we can start infernal at 50 and we get FG at 50 as well..Why did blizz even bother creating Infernal??..why not just make our existing pet a bit better??..for those around the same level..dont waste yer time..i wasnt impressed...the only thing fun is after the 5mins you get to show him just how much you appeciate his help!!

S_W

Rizob · May 06, 2007, 07:34 PM

This has been complained about for years. The CM response has been that the developers wanted to give us a powerful pet that was on a long cool down. They did not want the doomguard or infernal to be a persistent pet. I suppose it was probably in the same category as lay on hands, battle rez's, warrior shield wall/recklessness, etc. Unfortunately, the doomguard/infernal were never balanced correctly and so they remain incredibly weak. The dev's dont intend to fix them either so you can think of it as original release content that has been largely ignored.

Dont get your hopes up for the doomguard at 60. It's worse than the infernal.

WargrinofKirinT · May 06, 2007, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Warlock

I mean we can start infernal at 50 and we get FG at 50 as well..Why did blizz even bother creating Infernal??
S_W

Um....Infernal was around WAY before Felguard was even thought of...

doogless · May 06, 2007, 07:45 PM

The infernal is very powerful for creating chaos when dropped on groups. The initial stun is very nice, and it's immune to fear allowing it to stick to priests very well. If you're demo spec, sac your demo before you summon one and you have a DS buff and a pet at the same time.

It's not the greatest pet ever, but it has its uses.

Shadow_Warlock · May 06, 2007, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by WargrinofKirinT

Um....Infernal was around WAY before Felguard was even thought of...

I mean "you get the infernal quest at 50"...and you can get FG at 50 as well...granted infernal has been there for longer..but for a newer player like me he doesnt make sense when you look at the big picture...

Also in a PvP if infernal is summoned after 5min who does he attack?..interesting?

S_W

arrowz_shot · May 07, 2007, 03:43 AM

also, the quest is just classic...

the guy summoning an unstoppable, blazing... chicken? made me crack up when i turned in the quest :D

gimmpy · May 07, 2007, 05:38 AM

I never experienced that! Was waiting for it too.

Gritz · May 07, 2007, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow_Warlock

he got taken out by 4 taskmaster dwarfs...

He's strong - but not invincible ;)

I generally only use him for PvP - the stun will stop a zerg in its tracks and he'll draw attention away from the rest of your group while your opponents try to burn him down.

-Gritz

grishnak · May 07, 2007, 07:58 AM

Think of it as a 1 hour cooldown mega-grenade

The quest isn't really difficult and it adds flavor to the game.

Doomguard is more useful (his spells are really powerful) but is a pain to summon

Bengals1us · May 07, 2007, 08:36 AM

Ironically I spent the majority of my weekend working on this Infernal quest. I hit 50 and decided to give it a try, recruited my 49 Pally buddy to help out. So after lots of traveling and collecting those essences we finally ignited Kroshius.

I read that enslaving one of the 52 Elite Guards and having him fight could work, so I tried it. No need to summarize because that blew up QUICK. Enslave, send in guard, guard hits twice, breaks enslavement, then both of them CRUSH us.

After a few attempts I ran out of Soul Shards and my Pally friend was complaining about repair costs. So after discussing one last strategy we look up and Kroshius is GONE. And no, the flame did not re-appear back in my bag.

So what, now I have to go and collect those essences all over again? If Infernal is as crappy as mentioned above I just might blow off the quest until I am in the upper 50's.

May 06, 2007, 07:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
Shadow_Warlock Member	Infernal - Very Disappointed Ok so after 14 deaths..5 rebuilds on my armor (Kroshius does hit like a freight train..oh the pain..) and more &#**$$ hours i care to share i finally soloed Kroshius as a level 52 affy lock...it was VERY painful and i figure great so now i get a greaat new tough pet right?..WRONG...he is crap.. . Costs money to summon (not that expensive..but still is coin..) Hits like VW + a bit and dies so much quicker..I summoned him at searing gorge and he got taken out by 4 taskmaster dwarfs... One hour cooldown on the spell ??.. Finally ~5mins before he tries to attack you I mean we can start infernal at 50 and we get FG at 50 as well..Why did blizz even bother creating Infernal??..why not just make our existing pet a bit better??..for those around the same level..dont waste yer time..i wasnt impressed...the only thing fun is after the 5mins you get to show him just how much you appeciate his help!! S_W Last edited by Shadow_Warlock; May 06, 2007 at 07:18 PM..

May 06, 2007, 07:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
Rizob Member Character Info Rizob 70 Gnome Warlock US PvE Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/21/40	Re: Infernal - Very Disappointed This has been complained about for years. The CM response has been that the developers wanted to give us a powerful pet that was on a long cool down. They did not want the doomguard or infernal to be a persistent pet. I suppose it was probably in the same category as lay on hands, battle rez's, warrior shield wall/recklessness, etc. Unfortunately, the doomguard/infernal were never balanced correctly and so they remain incredibly weak. The dev's dont intend to fix them either so you can think of it as original release content that has been largely ignored. Dont get your hopes up for the doomguard at 60. It's worse than the infernal. Last edited by Rizob; May 06, 2007 at 07:38 PM..

May 06, 2007, 07:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
doogless Member Character Info Themorrigan 70 Human Warlock Kil'Jaeden US PvP Guild: The Collective Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/0/0	Re: Infernal - Very Disappointed The infernal is very powerful for creating chaos when dropped on groups. The initial stun is very nice, and it's immune to fear allowing it to stick to priests very well. If you're demo spec, sac your demo before you summon one and you have a DS buff and a pet at the same time. It's not the greatest pet ever, but it has its uses.

May 07, 2007, 03:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
arrowz_shot Member Character Info Arde 70 Undead Warlock Jubei'thos Oceania PvP Profile:	Re: Infernal - Very Disappointed also, the quest is just classic... the guy summoning an unstoppable, blazing... chicken? made me crack up when i turned in the quest :D

May 07, 2007, 05:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
gimmpy Member Character Info gimppy 70 Gnome Warlock Archimonde US PvP Guild: The Fremen Knights Talent Spec: aff/dest	Re: Infernal - Very Disappointed I never experienced that! Was waiting for it too.

May 07, 2007, 07:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
grishnak Member Character Info Grishnak 70 Orc Warlock Sargeras Euro PvP Guild: Mélancolie Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 26/35/0	Re: Infernal - Very Disappointed Think of it as a 1 hour cooldown mega-grenade The quest isn't really difficult and it adds flavor to the game. Doomguard is more useful (his spells are really powerful) but is a pain to summon

May 07, 2007, 08:36 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bengals1us Member Character Info Cassiusray 70 Human Warlock Baelgun US PvE Guild: Genocidal Tendencies Talent Spec: 46/11/2	Re: Infernal - Very Disappointed Ironically I spent the majority of my weekend working on this Infernal quest. I hit 50 and decided to give it a try, recruited my 49 Pally buddy to help out. So after lots of traveling and collecting those essences we finally ignited Kroshius. I read that enslaving one of the 52 Elite Guards and having him fight could work, so I tried it. No need to summarize because that blew up QUICK. Enslave, send in guard, guard hits twice, breaks enslavement, then both of them CRUSH us. After a few attempts I ran out of Soul Shards and my Pally friend was complaining about repair costs. So after discussing one last strategy we look up and Kroshius is GONE. And no, the flame did not re-appear back in my bag. So what, now I have to go and collect those essences all over again? If Infernal is as crappy as mentioned above I just might blow off the quest until I am in the upper 50's.