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Old June 10, 2008, 08:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So as I start picking up my lock again I am trying to work on things. Of course I know if i need to cc i got out succy. typically dont have pup out when pve, but ive been bouncing back and fourth with my imp and VW.

Last night in arc may be a diff story. theirs certain spots where theirs a few non leets. so i would sac void for bubble and lay out SoC. lots of times i would pull, getting hit a couple times but bubble saved me. matter of fact, a previous night in seth halls (hate this 1 btw) with a decent pally tank, i would vw bubble and SoC away. the leader had asked me for it too since we had a pally tank. Not sure if this is what i should be doing. it seems like a good idea.

if theirs no aoe types for me i will run with imp for dark pact, but not sure if i should use succy more to add to my dps on trash.

is any of this pers pref or is their a certain gear req that would dictate leaning in one direction?

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Old June 10, 2008, 08:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: pet thoughts

When I do instances or raid, I always have my imp. Good mana battery and +stam buff. My succy would die quickly if there are any aoe attacks.
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Old June 10, 2008, 09:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: pet thoughts

I can see the reason for imp over succy but is it worth that much more if their isnt aoe attacks so the succy would add some dps or is the imps dps enough.

I guess my question is me having my VW out for the bubbles when they want me to SoC. it does seem to save me at times when i got a few mobs beating on me, but i will need to try it more without and having more heals spammed on me.
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Old June 10, 2008, 11:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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If im on CC.. the succubus is out. If im not, its the imp.
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Old June 10, 2008, 02:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: pet thoughts

Succy is usually #1 for instances. If you're good and a blasting spec(do not use dots with a succy of course) you can solo any caster in any heroic with a succy out as long as it's seducable and not a boss of course. I kill the warlocks in heroic MgT with taking 0 damage rather than cc it as long as there isn't a mage guard out(that stun sucks)
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Old June 10, 2008, 03:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Every boss and zone is situational. To say your only going to use one catch all pet is a total mistake IMO. You need to keep rotating your pets according to what the best suits a boss or mob to maximize your results.
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Old June 10, 2008, 04:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: pet thoughts

In speaking of 5 mans, and as I said a blasting spec, 90% of the time you're gonna have a succy by your side. If you have a vw out in a 5 man there's something wrong with either your trust in your tank or healer or both. Overall the succy gives you far more survivability due to seduce. If you're using a felhunter you're just asking for a melee hit in the face which a good number of the casters in 5 mans hit a lock harder melee than spell damage. MAYBE if you're demo with MD you can use an imp on 5 mans for the threat reduction. Thanks to the changes recently made to cleave also a felguard is a decent choice if you spec'd for it.

Unless of course you feel like saccing which is also viable but in most instances I still dont sac unless we are loaded with cc dpsers or there's a demon to enslave
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Old June 10, 2008, 04:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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you shouldn't need to sack your void for bubble in an instance/raid when Seeding stuff. you should allow 5 secs for aggro and then seed spam. your tank should (if he is any good) be able to hold aggro.
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Old June 10, 2008, 08:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Much less you have soul shatter, or you just die for lack of resourcefulness.
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Old June 10, 2008, 09:56 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: pet thoughts

PureBalance,
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Thanks to the changes recently made to cleave also a felguard is a decent choice if you spec'd for it."
Incorrect. FG cleave WILL still break CC. It is good for dps, but you need to micromanage (toggle on/off) cleave depending on encounter (and not forget).

OP, situational, but I'm not convinced that the VW is not a good choice. That shield lasts 1 second in a heroic. To SoC, you need to either 1) wait for the pally tank to build good threat lead; or 2) get the seed on as many, non-dps'd mobs as possible before the explosion they should all be dead once this occurs or you will probably die.

Side note, was running H Mgt the other day (warrior tank) and where the AoE mana fish things are I have tried to SoC but the mage short fused my SoC, I gained threat and died (VW shield was laughable). My opinion is that the mage needs to HOLD BACK until you have seeded a few, and when the first explosion hits, THEN they engage. Anyone else have comments/experience on this situation?

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