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Old November 10, 2008, 03:14 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Betzalel
70 Human Warlock
The Maelstrom Euro PvP

Huge health problem

Hello guys...

At this moment I have to say I'm about to quit this game. My pets.. all my pet are having serious health bug and GM ( i asked him 3 times) didint want to help: "We are not able to help you with gameplay issue.. bla, bla..."

Pets are having lack of health points, even my stamina is high...

Images can tell you more then 1000 words.. so simply check them and please.. help me..

This is my spec and my lock and my spec with fel synergy


This is random lock with similar gear and spec without fel synergy


And this is his pet's health without fel synergy


Thiss was jus random lock - afk... :D, all other locks with gear similars as mine are having normal situation, without fel synergy 7.2-.7.4, with fel synergy 7.9-8.1.

My without 6.83 and with as you saw from screen shot 7.1

Thank you...

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Old November 10, 2008, 03:52 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Wayangkulit
70 Undead Warlock
Greymane US PvE
Guild: Hellfire Club
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/56/5
Re: Huge health problem

looks to me liek you have a fantastic amount of health.

its alla bout gearing and gems and enchants... the other lock my have a huge amount of +sta

your almost 14000 hit points are by far better then my own 10000 with fel synergy... and im t4 or better. what sort of health do you think you should be having? becasue it looks ok to me.
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Old November 10, 2008, 03:59 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Betzalel
70 Human Warlock
The Maelstrom Euro PvP

Re: Huge health problem

It is not about my health points. As you can see that warlock has LESS hp then me.. so question is: how if he has less hp then me, his pet can have more hp then mine, even I'm USING fel synergy and he is not...

Fel Synergy explanation

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Old November 10, 2008, 04:27 PM   #4 (permalink)

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Kiralyn
80 Human Warlock
Mal'Ganis US PvP
Guild: Self Titled
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0.13.58
Re: Huge health problem

Are you using an +hp enchants instead of +stam enchants? That's the only non-bug thing I can think of to explain the difference. Your HP would be higher without any effect on your pets.
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Old November 10, 2008, 04:32 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Betzalel
70 Human Warlock
The Maelstrom Euro PvP

Re: Huge health problem

No... In fact I'm not using even +150 hp on chest, I have +15 resi on chest... On head: 18 stam+20 resi, on pants: 35 stam+20 spell power, on bracers 12 stam and boots 9 stam+minor speed...

What is the most sad: GM is not willing to help: he said that i have to figure it out by myself cuz it's gameply issue.. :S He wasnt interested not even abit.
I'm not nub.. about what gameplay issue is he talking about...
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Old November 10, 2008, 05:11 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Darksumoner
80 Human Warlock
Tanaris US PvE
Guild: Samsara
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: Huge health problem

Since I cant seem to find you on Armory probably because a Euro server can you link your spec to us? Maybe we can find a problem in there that would account for the health difference.
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Old November 10, 2008, 05:38 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Jesterlock
80 Gnome Warlock
Quel'Thalas Euro PvE
Guild: The Order of Azeroth
Talent Spec: 3/15/53
Re: Huge health problem

that really sucks, about GM attitude.
You might be the noobest person in the world, and not be able to tell the difference between HP and stamina, he was still suppose to answer your question,

The way i see it, if no + HP enchants are involved, a higher HP lock's pet should always have more hp than a lower hp lock's pet.

At first i thought about race difference (the other guy in your ss's seems to be a gnome, you're a human) but still shouldn't matter, as long as you have more stamina, your pet should have more health. Ofc having extra talents should help even more.


I say put another ticket
And when the quiz about how was the support comes, comment on it.
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Old November 10, 2008, 05:47 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Betzalel
70 Human Warlock
The Maelstrom Euro PvP

Re: Huge health problem

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Since I cant seem to find you on Armory probably because a Euro server can you link your spec to us? Maybe we can find a problem in there that would account for the health difference.
Yes.. it is Euro server.
Here is my current spec Betzalel
Although I doubt you will find anything wrong in it, cuz i respecced it few times with same result.
And btw, I didin't mention. I copied my char on PTR (it's down last few days), but during the time PTR was active (last time i tested it on the day when 3.0.3 came), this character didint have any problems with pet's health. Even without fel synergy felhunter had 7.6k hp and with it more then 8k (i don't recall it correctly)

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that really sucks, about GM attitude.
You might be the noobest person in the world, and not be able to tell the difference between HP and stamina, he was still suppose to answer your question,

The way i see it, if no + HP enchants are involved, a higher HP lock's pet should always have more hp than a lower hp lock's pet.

At first i thought about race difference (the other guy in your ss's seems to be a gnome, you're a human) but still shouldn't matter, as long as you have more stamina, your pet should have more health. Ofc having extra talents should help even more.


I say put another ticket
And when the quiz about how was the support comes, comment on it.
Yea.. GM showed very worst from himself regarding this problem.. :(
I had race in mind, but trust me all other warlocks are having normal scaling, and humans and gnomes i saw on my server. I used this guy cuz he had similar gear as mine and AFK long enough for me to take screen shots..

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Old November 10, 2008, 05:55 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Tragik
80 Gnome Warlock
Khadgar US PvE
Guild: Can Heal Stupid
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
Re: Huge health problem

I just pulled you up on the EU armory.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums - [bug] Fel Synergy Warlock Demo Talent

Read that.

Or try the EU forums.

To sum it up:

There's two possibilities:

1) The talent is bugged.

2) We are all misunderstanding how it benefits your pet. It's an additional 10% of your original scaling and the tooltip is bugged.

I don't know the formulas, but the probability is that it's number 2.

Other than Armor, I don't think our pets really receive a whole lot from this talent. It's not going to give your pet too much, because then DK would become the best talent in our trees, which with the recent nerf to SnF, wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
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Old November 10, 2008, 07:36 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Betzalel
70 Human Warlock
The Maelstrom Euro PvP

Re: Huge health problem

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Originally Posted by Tragik View Post
I just pulled you up on the EU armory.

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums - [bug] Fel Synergy Warlock Demo Talent

Read that.

Or try the EU forums.

To sum it up:

There's two possibilities:

1) The talent is bugged.

2) We are all misunderstanding how it benefits your pet. It's an additional 10% of your original scaling and the tooltip is bugged.

I don't know the formulas, but the probability is that it's number 2.

Other than Armor, I don't think our pets really receive a whole lot from this talent. It's not going to give your pet too much, because then DK would become the best talent in our trees, which with the recent nerf to SnF, wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.
I see your point. But in this topic I'm not talking about possible Fel Synergy bug (even I'm aware that there is possibility of that also), I'm talking about low hp with or without that talent. In both ways my pets are having 500-1000 hp less then pets from other warlocks.

And Eu Forums... nobody actually helped.. I tried..

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