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Old February 16, 2009, 04:49 PM   #31 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

It doesnt sound like they are nerfing it, but probably will work to make sure it isnt viable in future encounters.
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Old February 16, 2009, 05:21 PM   #32 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

It's getting Nerfed

World of Warcraft - English (NA) Forums - Voidwalkers better sarth tanks than warriors?

"I would not expect the Voidwalker to continue to be an excellent tank for challenging raid content.

The health boost was largely for PvP reasons and the damage avoidance was to make up for limitations in pet AI and master control, not to let you opt out of having to manage tons of incoming damage on your main tank. "


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Old February 16, 2009, 05:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Alleria US PvE
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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

Well i certainly hope your right.
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Old February 16, 2009, 11:26 PM   #34 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

When a breath that's supposed to do 40k to a tank does only 6.7k on the voidwalker, if you ask me that's a little overpowered.

If the aoe breath got changed to being a single target hit that hits multiple targets in a cone, then it would be a reasonable nerf. Your voidwalker would still be taking bucketloads of damage which could still be healed with massive output, but it would get prevent the abuse of mechanics.
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Old February 17, 2009, 02:10 AM   #35 (permalink)

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i don't think it sounds like a nerf

it's more "goodluck trying this in Ulduar, because you'll be facing endless wipes"
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Old February 17, 2009, 02:56 AM   #36 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

I agree it doesn't sound like a nerf because honestly it's really time consuming/costly to get to that level where the void has 75k-100k health. It also makes the warlock into a non-dps. Not too mention the fact that it only works because there is no dps on the boss. Most likely there aren't going to be very many situations where a boss can just sit untouched while other things are dealt with. This may be the hardest fight, but it is perfect for a void to tank since the main boss is untouched for the first few minutes. All they would have to do is add an aggro wipe or a phase change mechanic or complicated positioning and the void becomes worthless. I think there's any number of elements that could be done to make the void useless for raid bosses.
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Old February 17, 2009, 05:45 AM   #37 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

I wonder why Bliz had to say that. Due to the threat of the VW it can't tank anything which also needs to die. Even with the several minutes headstart in threat the VW has on the Sarth fight, it still gets surpassed in no time after dps start focussing Sarth.
It's basically luck that optimal conditions exist for a VW-tank fight and I see no reason why anything needs to be nerfed.

Now if the void could hold aggro against 3k+ dpsers I'd say there was a problem, and even then the VW's main advantage is the 80% AE avoidance so only on heavy ae / breath bosses it can "shine".
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Old February 17, 2009, 08:21 AM   #38 (permalink)

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Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

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If blizz does nerf it I am going to start the biggest rant post you have ever seen in your entire life. It's going to be a freaking novel.
I look forward to reading your rant post and smiling to myself about it all as i am in the same boat as you
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Old February 17, 2009, 10:37 AM   #39 (permalink)

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Talent Spec: 3/15/53
Re: Voidwalker tanks 3d sarth

i don't think it will be nerfed.

There's no reason to do it to be honest, it's only 1 fight in the whole game.
Unless they add another fight where the target tanked by a voidwalker doesn;t gett any dps untill the end, this will just remain as it is now, very situational.

Now, if the demonic empowerment for voids still had the threat bug...now that would be awesome.

I would sooo much like to see a raid composed of 2 demo locks(one to tank KT, one to pickup the adds) + 5 healers + 18 haunt/ruin locks with doomguards out pwning Kelthuzad
Since pets don't get the blast, no problems with melee
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Old February 17, 2009, 10:39 AM   #40 (permalink)

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Deathwing US PvP
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Re: Voidwalker tanks Sarth 3 drakes! Blizzard not saying much.

This tactic really is only viable for 3drake Sartharion due to the lack of need to build threat. There's no real way to 'abuse' it.
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