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Old February 13, 2009, 06:00 AM   #1 (permalink)

New demon idea: the Doppleganger

The Doppleganger looks exactly like you (even when inspected) with no indication of which one is the actual player. It's got several spells like corruption, shadowbolt, hellfire, metamorphosis, teleport: they do generate threat, however they don't do actual damage.
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Old February 13, 2009, 06:16 AM   #2 (permalink)

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Re: New demon idea: the Doppleganger

I'd love to see a demon flight form for locks, either we metamorph into a demon form for flight like druids or big bad *** demon swoops down and carries us off in its talons
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Old February 13, 2009, 09:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The Doppleganger looks exactly like you (even when inspected) with no indication of which one is the actual player. It's got several spells like corruption, shadowbolt, hellfire, metamorphosis, teleport: they do generate threat, however they don't do actual damage.
This is a cool idea, but for it to be really effective if it doesn't deal damage I think it would need to mimic all of our abilities. That way we wouldn't as easily be spotted if we cast something that the demon doesn't have. Though, ultimately, it might be seen as being too similar to Mages clone ability.

Plus there would be some technical issues for Blizz to figure out such as your pet showing up as "Pernicious <Minion of Pernicious>"

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I'd love to see a demon flight form for locks, either we metamorph into a demon form for flight like druids or big bad *** demon swoops down and carries us off in its talons
I love the idea of a demon being summoned that picks us up in his claws. that'd just be wicked. I can picture some sort of Demonic Bat like creature.

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I'm still in favor of Meta becoming baseline and the 51pointer for the Demo tree being along the lines of Demonic Clone. Where your pet is cloned, deals a percentage of damage that the original does, and mirrors all your original pet's attacks. It would increase pet damage, plus additional perks such as divide the damage the pet takes with Soul Link in half, grant you more buffs from Demonic Knowledge and other talents. I'd assume it would only last as long as the Shaman Wolves pets last.
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Old February 13, 2009, 10:05 AM   #4 (permalink)

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Re: New demon idea: the Doppleganger

we complain enough that we are to much like mages, yet we want an ability that the mages have exactly. haha
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Old February 13, 2009, 10:45 AM   #5 (permalink)

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Re: New demon idea: the Doppleganger

I'd love an "oh shit" pet that we can summon for a limited amount of time and it throws out heals/decurses/abolishes poisons.

Or an "oh shit" spell that lets us cast shadow spells on friendly targets, but instead of doing damage it heals the target for that amount. So corruption turns into prayer of mending, curse of agony turns into a lifebloom, shadowbolt is now a greater heal, and shadow fury is a pseudo circle of healing. Maybe upon using this ability we are granted a half life and die when time is up...

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Old February 13, 2009, 10:53 AM   #6 (permalink)
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we complain enough that we are to much like mages, yet we want an ability that the mages have exactly. haha
I think the difference here is that the cloned mages pop out for 30 seconds or so and cast a limited range of spells that deal damage. The clone Warlock idea would be a pet that is out all the time that would look for all intents and purposes just like us, but not deal damage. The idea is to confuse our opponents into attacking the pet and not the real Warlock thus prolonging our life.

Still, it is rather similar in essence to the mages, expecially given that many of our spells are "reverse mage" spells. Blink/Demonic Teleport, Portal/Summon, Mana Stones/Health stones, etc.
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Old February 13, 2009, 11:14 AM   #7 (permalink)

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As neat as it would be, and as fiting as a demonic version of mirror image, I just don't see it happening. The point of the demon warlock relationship is to benefit from certain abilities the warlock has. Simply copying ones self isn't very special or unique, and I would find it extremely boring
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Old February 13, 2009, 11:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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As neat as it would be, and as fiting as a demonic version of mirror image, I just don't see it happening. The point of the demon warlock relationship is to benefit from certain abilities the warlock has. Simply copying ones self isn't very special or unique, and I would find it extremely boring
It feels like I'm posting too much on an idea that isn't even mine, but thats how it goes some times...

I agree. It would be rather dull. As far as pets go they usually have a few abilities of their own. Perhaps if you could tell it to mimic your target? You could then have a pet that looks like you (target yourself), or a Warrior, Mage, or Druid that you saw a few minutes ago (target them). I think it would need a few of its own abilities as well, perhaps its own fear (It could be called Confusion since that'd be the point of this pet), maybe a shadowbolt (some DD), or small heal spell (for more utility)?

I agree that this idea really doesn't sound too much like a Warlock, but I'm sure it could be rather fun to play around with if you did have it. Might be more of a Mage idea though.
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Old February 13, 2009, 11:26 AM   #9 (permalink)

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Re: New demon idea: the Doppleganger

How about a spell we cast on our demon that makes them look like us for a limited period and if someone mistakes the demon for you and hits the demon they are stunned and/or receive x amount of damage
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Old February 13, 2009, 11:31 AM   #10 (permalink)

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Re: New demon idea: the Doppleganger

That idea actually sounds pretty damn cool sort of sneaky and backhanded but maybe a fear instead of a stun
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