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April 16, 2009, 07:35 AM
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Gourdegoule 80 Undead Warlock Dalaran (français) Euro PvE Guild: Ombre Phoenix Profile: Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
VW nerf has gone too far !
Hello fellow warlocks, I am really not the type of player who whines after a patch about nerfs, but the change they made to the VW life has really gone too far.  My VW has now, with my stats, the same amount of life than my FG : 15k. He went down from 22k to 15k which is really a bit frustrating. And the loss of the hp boost from Synergy also is higher than I thought, my FG was at 17k before the patch (so a loss of 2k). I understand that Blizzard wanted to avoid the VW tanking in raid instances (Sarth etc.), but going down that much, and being at the same hp level than the FG, is wrong. The VW should have a higher hp pool than the FG, after all it's the tanking pet. Don't you feel demonloks have been nerfed for this aspect ? I cannot judge yet the dps increase with Nemesis and Decimation, the instance server crashed yesterday evening and we were not able to raid. |
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April 16, 2009, 07:38 AM
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Necromancia 80 Gnome Warlock Emerald Dream Euro PvE Guild: Knights of the heart Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 53/40/18 |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
I kind of agree that any nerf to us is very annoying but this is what happens when players find a easy way of taking a boss down. A clothie tanking a mini boss - should of never happened tbh |
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April 16, 2009, 08:07 AM
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lilsteele 80 Human Warlock Terenas Euro PvE |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
the VW is still a tank pet... its not all about health, he also has higher armor etc. And then you have the glyph... |
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April 16, 2009, 12:53 PM
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Kiralyn 80 Human Warlock Mal'Ganis US PvP Guild: Self Titled Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0.13.58 |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
I haven't tried to see what the changes did to my VW in a raid situation. I tanked all of my guilds 3D kills. The entire idea behind this was that the VW had a huge health pool and % mitigation. He was able to cut back the damage from the breaths and have enough HP to soak the melee hits, kind of like a reverse druid tank. I havn't looked, but I doubt there is enough of a health pool for the soaking aspect of this. I understand that blizzard didn't like the idea of a pet tanking content more effectively than a player, but I don't agree with the changes. It required a completely different gear set for the warlock, as well as talent and glyph choices that normally would not be made, essentially nerfing the warlock. Threat generation is non-existent, so this ONLY works on something that needs to be tanked for a period of time and not damaged, which is a classic OT roll. What was a fun new thing to do with a classically useless warlock pet is back got pulled because of a single encounter with a very specific set of circumstances. I'm sure I won't ever pull a VW out again now that they've nerfed this.
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April 16, 2009, 01:03 PM
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Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
A better question overall is: What is the Voidwalker supposed to do? It has no purpose. It can't hold aggro from anything a level 80 warlock does. In fact, during levelling it's not good, either. It doesn't make enough threat. It's melee-mitigation talents are terrible, and it's shield is dispellable and doesn't absorb enough damage. You can't summon another pet without popping a 15 minute CD either (Nemesis and any PVP build utilizing Nemesis is easily countered and CC'd anyway). It's like Demonic Empowerment and the Succubus and/or Felhunter. Why? You can't get creative and make use of them without completely giving up the ability to do damage at all. |
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April 16, 2009, 01:58 PM
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Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
Well, VWs were good for lower lvling up to about 60. Now there is little use for it at all. I noticed the hp change last night while lvling. Now taunt doesn't hold aggro when i pop SB. They really are taking away the fun in being a Demolock. |
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April 16, 2009, 02:36 PM
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Tianshaan 80 Human Warlock Terokkar US PvE Guild: Vae Victus Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
No, there is definitely no use at all for this pet. |
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April 16, 2009, 03:06 PM
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Fizzik 80 Blood Elf Warlock Dunemaul US PvP Guild: Ghosts of Damnation Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
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It would be ok to even call him a leveling pet and be done with it, but I remember too well pulling aggro off of him back when I was level 40. The VW is useful only for a short while and only very very situationally. |
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April 16, 2009, 03:31 PM
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Ominousicity 80 Orc Warlock Draenor US PvE Guild: Renewal Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 00/41/30 |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
the voidwalker is still a useful tool for farming, letting him trail 5 or 6 mobs and aoeing them down once he reaches the last...granted the fel guard can do this too, but for those who dont have 41 demo talents, still viable, no? --added--- /shrug
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April 16, 2009, 03:36 PM
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Niaku 80 Orc Warlock The scryers US RP PvE Guild: Wolfden Profile: WoW Rankings Talent Spec: 0/56/15 |
Re: VW nerf has gone too far !
I havnt used the blueberry in a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong time, he's pointless, i have a felgaurd when in demo, an imp when in destro, and a puppy for affliction. The only use of the sucubus is cc, and blueberry cant do that either. He has no use. |
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