Imp/Suc Stealth nerf?

stush · January 26, 2005, 06:18 AM

There was apparently a lot of hoopla over at the offical boards about a stealth servere nerf on imps and sucs.

Unfortunately the forums seem to be down.

Anybody know what this is all about?

Kebkin · January 26, 2005, 08:47 AM

I read part of that thread. The poster is saying the extra HPs you get from Blood Pact have been reduced. She also says that Seduce has been nerfed. She was 1 on 1 PvP against a rogue and Seduced him. She had Improved Succubus so expected to get a 25% bonus to the duration. She claims the Seduce only lasted a few seconds.

The poster played on a Korean server and I think they just got the patch we got several days ago that nerfed all crowd control abilities (mage Polymorph and rogue Sap).

Soni · January 26, 2005, 08:47 AM

Imp HP was knocked down and apparantly Seduce was nerfed so that it doesn't often last more than 10 seconds.

Amira_of_Darkspear · January 26, 2005, 09:53 AM

Doesnt even last 10 seconds more like 6 or 7 seconds max in pvp lol. The seduce and nuke tactic just took a nosedive... Consider soulfire barely viable in pvp now... You still still get it off usually but they got a bit of time to run up and interupt it a bit with reduced seduce time. Yay for nerfing classes that dont need to be nerfed yet again. As for the imps hp I havent noticed that much... his hp has always sucked. Bloodpact didnt seem to change, may just not have noticed that though.

Griand · January 26, 2005, 11:26 AM

Yeah there were no changes to blood pact, and no one is asserting that there have been. I think people just got that confused with the imp's HP apparently being lowered. Started thinking the HP that the imp gives you got lowered....not true.

Anyway, I don't know about this one. I see a lot of people just jumping on the bandwagon and no verifiable data. Humans are notoriously bad at heuristics. It's tough to gauge something like that without using actual timers, keeping logs, etc. I haven't seen anything like that yet, and I will therefore continue my skepticism of this supposed nerf.

boscolio · January 26, 2005, 02:23 PM

we have 2 threads on the same subject. so in the effort of 1 fluid discussion please post in this thread

January 26, 2005, 06:18 AM	#1 (permalink)
stush Member	Imp/Suc Stealth nerf? There was apparently a lot of hoopla over at the offical boards about a stealth servere nerf on imps and sucs. Unfortunately the forums seem to be down. Anybody know what this is all about?

January 26, 2005, 08:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kebkin Member	Imp/Suc Stealth nerf? I read part of that thread. The poster is saying the extra HPs you get from Blood Pact have been reduced. She also says that Seduce has been nerfed. She was 1 on 1 PvP against a rogue and Seduced him. She had Improved Succubus so expected to get a 25% bonus to the duration. She claims the Seduce only lasted a few seconds. The poster played on a Korean server and I think they just got the patch we got several days ago that nerfed all crowd control abilities (mage Polymorph and rogue Sap).

January 26, 2005, 08:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
Soni Member Character Info Soni 80 Human Warlock Frostwolf US PvP Guild: Beastly Fido Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 54/0/17	Imp/Suc Stealth nerf? Imp HP was knocked down and apparantly Seduce was nerfed so that it doesn't often last more than 10 seconds.

January 26, 2005, 09:53 AM	#4 (permalink)
Amira_of_Darkspear Member	Imp/Suc Stealth nerf? Doesnt even last 10 seconds more like 6 or 7 seconds max in pvp lol. The seduce and nuke tactic just took a nosedive... Consider soulfire barely viable in pvp now... You still still get it off usually but they got a bit of time to run up and interupt it a bit with reduced seduce time. Yay for nerfing classes that dont need to be nerfed yet again. As for the imps hp I havent noticed that much... his hp has always sucked. Bloodpact didnt seem to change, may just not have noticed that though.

January 26, 2005, 11:26 AM	#5 (permalink)
Griand Member	Imp/Suc Stealth nerf? Yeah there were no changes to blood pact, and no one is asserting that there have been. I think people just got that confused with the imp's HP apparently being lowered. Started thinking the HP that the imp gives you got lowered....not true. Anyway, I don't know about this one. I see a lot of people just jumping on the bandwagon and no verifiable data. Humans are notoriously bad at heuristics. It's tough to gauge something like that without using actual timers, keeping logs, etc. I haven't seen anything like that yet, and I will therefore continue my skepticism of this supposed nerf.

January 26, 2005, 02:23 PM	#6 (permalink)
boscolio Member Character Info boscolio 60 Gnome Warlock Azgalor US PvP Guild: Dark Echo Talent Spec: 43/7/11	Imp/Suc Stealth nerf? we have 2 threads on the same subject. so in the effort of 1 fluid discussion please post in this thread