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Old April 14, 2009, 07:40 PM   #1 (permalink)

3.1 Help with Demonology DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1

This thread is for discussion on DPS and Cast Rotations for Demonology heavy builds. For Warlocks that are Demonology to discuss how to improve their DPS, optimal cast rotations and general discussion about their playstyle.

Please try to fill this thread up with information and discussion. Let's not make it one huge 'help' thread. Let's give a reason to come here instead of EJ...

For general DPS and Rotation discussion please use the I need help with my DPS - Thread #2 (Post Patch 3.1) thread. Thankyou.

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Old April 19, 2009, 01:33 AM   #2 (permalink)

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TenderRoast
80 Gnome Warlock

3.1 Re: Imba dps with demo

Personally, I'm a Demon/afflic spec, my gear is pretty much shit (only wearing stuff i got from questing solo) because by the time i get home from work, there are pretty much no raids happening (usually about midnight EST), but this build works well for me

The World of Warcraft Armory

but, i think i might be switching over to the build that Tragik linked
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Old April 19, 2009, 03:47 AM   #3 (permalink)

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Daneel
80 Orc Warlock
Firetree US PvP
Guild: Blazed
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
3.1 Re: Imba dps with demo

Just a quick comment on your spec tendrizer:

If you like it and arent worried too much about being great dps, then by all means stick with it, the game is really about having fun.

However if you want to climb the charts, to do good dps as a lock you absolutely must be speced into Ruin. No lock build without Ruin will ever do dps anywhere near a build with it. Read the forums and learn what you can about the dif suggested specs, they are all pretty good now. But you must, must, must have Ruin to do good dps.
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Old April 20, 2009, 02:53 PM   #4 (permalink)

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TenderRoast
80 Gnome Warlock

3.1 Re: Imba dps with demo

I finally got around to dualspecing, and went destro on it 0/30/41, and i fell in love with ruin. When I logged back in the next day, and pushed the magic button to go back over to my demon build, i found a glitch. When you log out, the spec that you are NOT using at the time, will get reset, if your logged for a certain amount of time (not sure on the time frame) so I decided to hell with it, and tried a new demon build (0/56/15) and it is NICE.

The main thing that i liked about my old build, was Improved Soul Drain, for soloing purposes.

Oh yea, does anyone else love the changes to Master Conjuror?
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Old April 20, 2009, 08:05 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Xarina
80 Human Warlock
Garona US PvE
Guild: Constant Vigil
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/41/30
3.1 Re: Imba dps with demo

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Oh yea, does anyone else love the changes to Master Conjuror?
oh yeah...big time...to the point of thinking it might be nerfed. It's just a ridiculous haste increase, but i'm not complaining.
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Old April 20, 2009, 08:59 PM   #6 (permalink)

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Belthezor
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Draenor US PvE
PvP
Guild: BCBuds
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 56/0/15
Re: Imba dps with demo

I am now deep demo the meta/ruin spec for the most part, and tend to get high damage dealt, but sometimes 3rd in dps.. this has happened a lot. Any reason for that? I regularly get high damage and many times 1st place in activity according to recount, but dps just isnt as high. I'm confused. Should I worry about dps or just be happy witht he high damage output?
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Old April 21, 2009, 12:00 PM   #7 (permalink)

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Hawkhill
80 Human Warlock
Kul Tiras Euro PvE
Guild: Aurora Borealis
Talent Spec: 3/53/15
3.1 Re: Imba dps with demo

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I am now deep demo the meta/ruin spec for the most part, and tend to get high damage dealt, but sometimes 3rd in dps.. this has happened a lot. Any reason for that? I regularly get high damage and many times 1st place in activity according to recount, but dps just isnt as high. I'm confused. Should I worry about dps or just be happy witht he high damage output?
I have the same problem as you.
I have almost full Tier 7.5 (4 of 5 pieces).
Gemmed with haste so i have around 500 in hasterating.
I crit for around 11k and crits often. So i wonder what im doing wrong.
Usually i use corruption, curse of agony, immolate and spams shadowbolt.
And ofcourse use Meta as often as i can. 2,5k dps. That concerns me. Wanna do like 3,5k+, but dunno what to do.
Have seen some of the builds there have been discussed here dont have the 3 points in suppression in the affliction tree. Why? thats 3% hit....
Here is link to my build..... The World of Warcraft Armory
Would have been nice with some sugguestions to what im doing wrong.
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Old April 21, 2009, 12:05 PM   #8 (permalink)

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Lephlock
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Earthen Ring US RP Guild: Team Awesome
Talent Spec: 0/55/16
re: Help with Demonology DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1

@Belthezor
I think we need a lot more information to help you figure out what is going on. What content are you talking about, what spellpower/hit are you running, what fights are you winning/losing on, and who's beating you? Also what spell rotation are you running.

I've found generally as a Meta lock since 3.0 hit, that with 3.1 I'm up a few hundred DPS without doing anything much different. I'm sure it's going to be more like 500 dps once I use Meta more effectively and get better at Soulfire weaving.

@Hawkhill
You need to tweak your spec. You need Nemesis, and you can pull points from Destructive Reach and one from Molten Core to get it. Dump Cataclysm and Aftermath, you need 5 in Bane. I take it you are raiding with an Elemental shaman who can handle the spellpower buff for the raid.
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Old April 21, 2009, 12:14 PM   #9 (permalink)

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Hawkhill
80 Human Warlock
Kul Tiras Euro PvE
Guild: Aurora Borealis
Talent Spec: 3/53/15
3.1 re: Help with Demonology DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1

Lephturn:

Could you try to set up a build for me in wowheads talent calc?
Thanx for the quick feedback.

Edit: nevermind.... after closer reading i see the specc :P
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Old April 21, 2009, 03:14 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Daneel
80 Orc Warlock
Firetree US PvP
Guild: Blazed
Talent Spec: 0/56/15
3.1 re: Help with Demonology DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1

Hawkhill:

The only thing i would add to Lephturn's advice would be to gem for spellpower and not haste. Haste is great, but never better than pure spellpower (or hit if you are not capped).
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