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May 09, 2009, 01:32 PM
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Katrinia 80 Blood Elf Warlock Bladesedge US PvE Guild: Core Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/41/30 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
ok trying to reach more dps on patchwork i only manage to barley hit 3k and sometimes on heroic im fine and others im just low on dps. is it better to go with crit or haste on bigger bosses is it better to go with Curse of Agony or cod my spec atm is 0/41/30 usually on mobs i do corr,ince3nerat and just spam incenerate on bosses i do either cor,or cod, corr, imm,incenerat untill i can use deciamtion glyphs are incenerate,immoate, and fellgaurd and is there a marco you can sett up corr,your trinket and demonic emporment. just by hitting it once that it would cycle threw them all and if it wastn reset back to the first ty |
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May 11, 2009, 03:21 AM
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Angantyr 80 Undead Warlock Thaurissan Oceania PvP Guild: Devils Own Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
First of all assuming: 2482 Spell Power 387 hit 23.02% Crit 594 Haste Using Spellstone, Fel Armor and Demonic Knowledge. On a test dummy. I'm hitting roughly 2700 DPS on the test dummies... to me this feels like I'm doing lower than I could. People are showing me their reports of reaching over 3k then saying my gear is better than theirs and its been bothering me for a while. I know 400 of that is my pet but I hear he can do more than that, my talents are exactly the same as mentioned so I don't think its my build but what could be holding him back so much? Should I be using my Firestone? If it's not that then it might be my rotation, when I was DS/SnF I used to just keep mashing Shadowbolt. Now with this build I go to and keep getting "you can't do that yet" while trying to reapply my dots.. I do press them straight away. Its kind of odd to explain. Lastly it my be my PC is just too old, I'm running an old machine and it was fine pre-Wrath of the Lich King but my frame rate has gone down since the expac. Would this have any more effect on my DPS? I doubt it would be just throwing it out there. If its none of them then I don't have the faintest clue. Is it that bad? |
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May 11, 2009, 04:31 AM
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Andrčas 80 Blood Elf Warlock Magtheridon US PvP Guild: Unity Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
A slow computer will certainly have an impact on your DPS, though this is most apparant in 25man raids. The top progression guilds often ask applicants to post the spec of the computer they are playing wow on for this particular reason (well, lagging on a healer or tank is obviously no better). But in any case, yes, it might be your computer holding you back. Also keep in mind that the 41/30 spec gets a bigger benefit from raid buffs than other specs since 25man raid buffs tend to triple the damage of your felguard up to around 1200 DPS. If the other locks you are comparing yourself to are specced affliction or destro that will account for some of the damage difference, I know i got like 2.9 on the heroic dummy with 41/30 pre 3.1 with gear similiar to yours, but I could still do 5-5.5k on patchwerk. Oh, and just few tips on your gear: -gemming for hit while choosing spirit over ice walker on boots is a bad idea -get the spell power/spirit leg enchant -even the Spellshock ring (JC craftable) is better than the healer's ring you're currently using -If you want to fill a yellow socket, it should always be either reckless (sp/haste) or veiled (sp/hit) |
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May 11, 2009, 05:18 AM
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Angantyr 80 Undead Warlock Thaurissan Oceania PvP Guild: Devils Own Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 56/0/15 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
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Fixed leg armor, I thought I had the spirit one. The ring was filler, had trouble with my old guild getting gear though I brought the spellshock one anyway. As for gems I changed a few of them but is it worth giving up the 16 hit? I'm not hit capped without buffs though I can see it being more wise to gem differently assuming raid buffs. Outside of those changes remaining at roughly 2500 even with the spellstone. :( |
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May 11, 2009, 06:41 AM
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Wierz 80 Human Warlock Blade's Edge Euro PvE Guild: The Immortal Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
This is gonna be my first post here after reading loads of stuff, but I just need to be pointed at the right direction and would appreciate the tips. Right now I'm doing 2.7k~2.9k on HC dummy and yesterday afternoon I did a pug OS25 ending up around 3.1k overall (#4 spot). When using AoE (Rain of Fire) I'm topping the stats with 4.4k. Still I think I'm not doing very well or atleast could be much better. The World of Warcraft Armory is my Armory profile. Spell rotation is Curse of Agony - Immolate - Corruption - Shadow Bolt - Incernate spam till DoT's wear of and start over again. Using the Felguard, Spellstone and Fell Armor. I do know I need to work on the gear (used to be full pvp geared) but starting raids now. As said, still happy being in the top with the dps, but hearing/seeing people talk about 4k~5k average I'm just wondering where I should go from here. |
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May 11, 2009, 10:24 AM
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Andrčas 80 Blood Elf Warlock Magtheridon US PvP Guild: Unity Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
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You would usually want to at least have the option of being hitcapped without relying on imp FF/Misery unless you know that such a buff will be provided every time you raid. One way to make such flexibility is to carry both hit and spell power food. Then aim for 406 hit and use 40 hit food when neither a boomkin with imp FF or a shadow priest is present and use 46 spell power food otherwise. --- Information Added --- Quote:
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May 11, 2009, 10:30 AM
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Lathiel 80 Blood Elf Warlock Chamber of Aspects Euro PvE Guild: Penance Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 3/14/54 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
With this gear (rounded figures): 2600 sp pow 480 crit 700 haste (with stone) hit capped ofc Glyphs: Conflag Immo Life Tap (with 4pT7) With 0/40/31, I get 5.6-5.8k dps on patchwerk, and I play on a laptop with about 30ms latency and 3fps in a 25 man raid. My rotation is Immo, Conflag, Corr, Curse of Agony, Inc filler. Conflag when off cd, refresh corr and Curse of Agony after a Life Tap (to benefit from the increased sp pow). When in execute (<35%, soon to be 30%), I try and do 1:1 Soulfire weaving, but most of the time, I settle with 2:1, which is Inc, Inc, SF... (haven't quite got the hang of it yet)
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May 13, 2009, 04:05 AM
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Wierz 80 Human Warlock Blade's Edge Euro PvE Guild: The Immortal Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
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Now I just need to get my +hit rating higher so will work on my gear because as said it's still too much pvp at the moment. |
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May 18, 2009, 05:06 AM
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Wierz 80 Human Warlock Blade's Edge Euro PvE Guild: The Immortal Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Help with Demo/Destro Hybrid Build DPS and Rotation - Post 3.1
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 This weekend we went in pug for Naxx-25 and finally I ended up fighting Patchwerk so I can post a dps count and to my own surprise I ended up #1 dps on him with 3.9k, getting more and more used to the rotation so I probably could do a but better but I'm so pleased with this already.Also 2 new items dropped in VoA and Naxx so my gear has been getting a boost since last weekend. Cheers! |
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