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Old June 05, 2009, 08:11 PM   #11 (permalink)
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80 Gnome Warlock
Drak'thul US PvP
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3.1 Re: I realy Don't know What it is that I'm Doing Wrong

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Your DPS wasn't high on Patch because of a fast kill - it's the other way around. Patch went down quickly because of your high DPS. You probably had a group composition with great synergy between the classes. A kill like that probably means everyone in the group was doing around 4-5k DPS.
Actually it is both. I will take it to the extreme to give better perspective:

Take the SAME group comp to do a dps test but:

Test 1: Lasts 1 minute where everyone blows all their cooldowns in the beginning.

Test 2: Lasts 5 minutes where everyone blows all their cooldowns once in the begining.

The result for Test 1 will be high dps in the beginning without much time to drop off, while the result for Test 2 will be equally high dps in the beginning, but with plenty of time to drop off thus granting a lower overall dps.

Makes sense?

-------edit to add:

Example:

Test 1 does 60k dps for the first 30 sec and 40k for the last 30 sec granting an overall dps of 50k.
Test 2 does 60k dps for the first 30 sec and 40k for the last 4.5 minutes granting an overall dps of 42k.

Make more sense?
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Old June 05, 2009, 08:28 PM   #12 (permalink)

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Black Dragonflight US PvP
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3.1 Re: I realy Don't know What it is that I'm Doing Wrong

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When I'm full Dis (0/13/58) My Rotation is
COE > Imo > Cur > Spam Insin > Config > Repet from Imo ( I end up only doing 2700)
Looks to me like you are wasting a GCD on putting Corruption up. Your Incens/CBs will do far more damage on one GCD than your Corruption will. Make sure your immo is up when your CB is hitting the target. Take into account travel time.

Imo > CoE or CoD > Conflag > CB > Incen Spam

on the following rotations it will look something like:

Incen Spam > Conflag > Imo > Incen > CB > Incen > Conflag

Its not an exact science, but that should give you a general guideline.

Also to explain leaving out Corruption. Since they moved Molten Core into the demo tree we no longer need shadow spells to proc it because when you are this deep in Destro you don't have the talent to proc. This also removes one CD you have to watch and makes the overall rotation easier to manage.
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Old June 10, 2009, 12:36 AM   #13 (permalink)

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Re: I realy Don't know What it is that I'm Doing Wrong

I'm having a huge issue on every boss, it seems. I'm 0/13/58 and have a weird mishmash of gear - almost no Naxx25 gear, but I have a few Ulduar pieces, a crafted piece, and a few Naxx10 pieces. As for stats, I'm hit capped and have about 2k spell damage unbuffed, with 454 haste and 17.5% crit.

I'm using an imp and my rotation is:
Cod-Immolate-CB-Conflag-Incin til CB or conflag are up, rinse and repeat.

The other locks in my raid are destro as well and are doing at LEAST a thousand more DPS than I am on average, and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Me: Honeyfitz/Malfurion
Our other locks: Twistedmik, Vryx and Macabé

Can someone PLEASE help me out, tell me what I'm doing wrong or what the difference is... I can't figure it out and I'm almost on the verge of quitting.
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Old June 10, 2009, 01:23 AM   #14 (permalink)

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Aman'Thul Oceania PvE
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3.1 Re: I realy Don't know What it is that I'm Doing Wrong

I'm deep destro with a mix of Naxx 10/25 items, badge gear and Heroic drops. Most of my Naxx runs are 10 man as I am in a small guild so anything 25 is always pugged. With my gear, rotations and the raid buffs (I didn't have any food and no flasks as I was pugged in unexpectedly) I did 5.1k on Patch on Sunday night. This wasn't a short fight as Patch enraged and after taking out the tanks, headed straight for me as I was next on the aggro table only to have him fall dead at my feet from my chaos bolt (I wasn't aware how much health he had at that point and almost crapped myself when he was charging at me).

My rotation is CoE>Corruption>Immolate>Conflag>Chaos Bolt>Incinerate spam until Conflag re-pops and refresh dots etc as needed, rinse and repeat. You always have to make sure that you are casting Chaos Bolt and Conflag (if you are using the Conflag glyph) everytime they are off cooldown.

I have Conflag, Immolate and Incinerate glyphs as well.

I found that by disabling Pitbull before doing 25 mans, I got a massive increase in my dps as it was lagging me out quite a bit - something that I don't notice in 10 mans.

Without knowing if you are running an array of addons, if you are lagging, whether your pc can handle it etc, it is really hard to say what could be causing your low dps.
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Old June 10, 2009, 10:37 AM   #15 (permalink)

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3.1 Re: I realy Don't know What it is that I'm Doing Wrong

Well, it's not lag due to addons; I shut them all off and was still only doing about 3500 on the practice dummy in IF.

I did notice, though, that my crit is about 8% lower than the locks I'm raiding with.

8% is a LOT, but would it make up a 1k DPS difference?
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