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August 31, 2009, 03:55 PM
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Marshwood 80 Human Warlock bronze dragonflight Euro PvE Guild: Valkyrien Guard Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Yet another cry for help
My character is pretty well geared, and I'm sure I should be able to get more damage out than currently. The World of Warcraft Armory I can just about hit 3k on a training dummy, but am often lucky to hit 2k in heroics. In raids it can vary from 2k to 3k. It doesn't help that usually in the raid is a hunter who's easily hitting 4k plus. I tell myself that I have long powerful casts and often don't get to finish them, but there has to be more to it than that. I currently use CoE, immolate, chaos bolt, conflagrate, then incinerate until CB or Conf can fire or until immolate needs firing. Any suggestions would be gratefully received. Are my glyphs ok? I'm currently refreshing immolate before CB if they're both running out. Is this right? Anything else I can do? I'm working on the mats for the new crafted boots and belt, but feel I'm not even getting all I should out of him currently, and would be better off improving on what I do have than just upgrading gear as the answer. |
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August 31, 2009, 04:16 PM
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Re: Yet another cry for help
If i were you I would switch conf with chaos bolt that way you can pop two conf per immolate...but other than that i cant see anything that would hold you back. |
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August 31, 2009, 04:56 PM
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Fizzik 80 Blood Elf Warlock Dunemaul US PvP Guild: Ghosts of Damnation Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Yet another cry for help
Wouldn't really bother with CoE and would pop Conflag immediately after Immolate, but this is just nitpicking. The reality is that hunters and rogues will usually out DPS us in heroics because we tend to deal steady, slower damage. Destro is a world away from Afflic in burst damage, but even here if the mob dies quickly, your immolate or Curse of Agony will never count it's last tick and by the time you're ready to cast CB, the mob's probably already dead. In raids, I'm usually 1-2 unless someone severely outgears me, in heroics, I'm usually trailing hunters & rogues (unless I severely outgear them). It's just the way it is. If you are still concerned about your DPS in heroics, you might consider swapping out a few hit pcs (Elemental Focus Stone, for example) with DPS pcs (Sundial or Abyssal Rune). Remember the 368 Hit Cap is for level 83 mobs and mobs in heroics go only as high as 82 (which only requires 79 hit...) |
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August 31, 2009, 06:35 PM
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Re: Yet another cry for help
Look at your boss damage, if you do a lot better relatively it's likely what people are saying here. CoE isn't worth it on short lived mobs. Also, consider buffs. If they're heavily buffed, say an elemental shaman, someone sundering armour a feral druid, etc you haven't got a boomkin, demo lock, elemental shaman mage or isb lock, you will do less damage. |
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September 01, 2009, 03:18 AM
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Marshwood 80 Human Warlock bronze dragonflight Euro PvE Guild: Valkyrien Guard Talent Spec: 3/13/55 |
Re: Yet another cry for help
Thanks guys, trying that conflagrate before CB does seem to do the trick - I thought I was supposed to fill in that gap because it takes a tick to become available, but output is much better. And either no curse or Curse of Agony seems to work better for short-term damage. What about glyphs? CB v Lfe tap? |
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September 01, 2009, 04:35 AM
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Cormanthor 80 Human Warlock Gnomeregan US PvE Guild: Knights who say Ni Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Various |
Re: Yet another cry for help
Glyphs of choice for 3/13/55: Conflagrate, Incinerate, Life Tap. If you move on to 0/13/58, swap Life Tap for Immolate due to Improved Soul Leech. EDIT: This should read Conflag, IMMOLATE, Life Tap, and swap Life Tap for INCINERATE after getting 0/13/58.
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September 01, 2009, 04:51 AM
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Jenerena 80 Blood Elf Warlock Executus Euro PvP Guild: Deliverance Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: 0/13/58 |
Re: Yet another cry for help
Well the first thing i look at is how you've gemmed and your haste and hit. You are using the wrong meta gem, you need the Chaotic Skyflare Diamond - Item - World of Warcraft. You also seem to be way over the hit cap. With your build you should be at 11%, though who's to say you have a boomkin or spriest in your raids. For heroics it doesn't matter, but if there's one present in your raids you do not need all that hit. I think it might be worth dropping the Elemental Focus Stone - Item - World of Warcraft if that's the case. For me as 0/13/58 that trinket is what grants me my soul leech due to the vast amounts of hit. Though it would be nice to maybe squeeze more spell power in for the sake of suppression. You do have a low amount of haste, you need around 500 to be soft capped. I never use CoD in heroics. Most of the time now no fight lasts longer than a minute so i just use Curse of Agony. I only use CoD in raids. Not worth it otherwise, presuming you know how it works. I also hit conflag before i refresh immolate, simply because i'd rather get as many conflags in as possible in one fight for damage purposes plus immolate will always be up. But that is a very debatable thing. Personally i would drop chaos bolt glyph for Life tap. Many people will say drop immolate but i'm not convinced. I guess it could be different for the suppression build but might be worth doing your research there. |
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September 01, 2009, 07:55 AM
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Elricc 80 Human Warlock Nagrand Oceania PvE Guild: The Silver Hand Talent Spec: Destro |
Re: Yet another cry for help
Your gear is very good. I use the LT glyph as it gives me an increase in spell power of around 150-200SP & I have LT rank 1 on my bar (custom UI) as well as max. rank 8? LT for when I need to regain mana not just proc. the glyph. Casting Immolate then conflag. will enable you to cast conflag. again before Immolate expires if you have enough haste. 1 of my warlocks The World of Warcraft Armory has the haste to do this & I have found this to be a DPS boost. I see your +hit is higher than the soft cap but as this is from gear & not gemmed at all I would see if you have or can easily get a ring or trinket that could-constantly rather than hoping for a proc- increase your haste etc. I use the Bracing Earthsiege Diamond - Items - WOWDB meta gem rather that the int. meta as we life tap for mana & have threat problems aplenty lol I find in heroics that I am generally lower in the the meter with more bursty or better geared players as the mobs die very fast. I would also direct you to a thread I started the other day Damage Meter confusion - The Warlocks Den - WoW Warlock Discussions look at where you are in damage done rather than straight DPS. I hope this is of some help.
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September 01, 2009, 09:27 AM
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Re: Yet another cry for help
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Anyway, to the OP: You should make a few changes to your toon; 1 - change you leg enchant to SP and spirit 2 - change your meta gem to chaotic skyflare diamon. This is the only acceptable PvE metagem. 3 - You're over the hitcap, change your boot enchant to Tuskar's vitality 4 - You've got too little haste for your average item level. Get rid of the hit gems and go for SP + haste gems if the socket bonus provides you with at least 5 sp. Otherwise go for full SP Remember: Crit if fun, but it should not be considered a priority before gaining at least 450 haste. Cranking up your haste should do wonders for you, even in heroics. Last edited by Benituccio; September 01, 2009 at 09:29 AM.. |
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September 01, 2009, 03:55 PM
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Status: Dot, 'Lock and Drop it!
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Cormanthor 80 Human Warlock Gnomeregan US PvE Guild: Knights who say Ni Profile: Blizzard Armory Talent Spec: Various |
Re: Yet another cry for help
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