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Old October 04, 2009, 10:20 PM   #21 (permalink)

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pringle
80 Human Warlock
Dawnbringer US PvE
Guild: Republic
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Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

I'm struggling with the same thing. I see other locks in my raids/PUGs that have consistently higher DPS than me, and most of the same gear. What to do?

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Old October 05, 2009, 07:10 AM   #22 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Sunstrider Euro PvP
Guild: revenant
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3.2 Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

DPS is very situational, but the HC target dummies are useful for direct comparison of gear and assessing rotations. It can be a little affected by random procs, but if you do it enough times, you begin to see a pattern.

Actual raids are far harder and there is an element of luck to the DPS output, especially for casters.
Melee seem to be topping the DPS and damage charts in our guild atm for some reason- I suppose it could be the type of fights we are doing.

There are some boss fights in ToC where I can be up to 5.5-6 K DPS, and others like last night where I do 2.5 because I spend the whole fight dodging fire with a Snobold stuck to my head :P

There can also be a massive difference in DPS and damage depending on party makeup, which again is why the dummies can be useful to allow you to play and get casting second nature. There can be an amazing difference in DPS depending on if you have slow or fast fingers for that fight, even on a basic rotation.

Ultimately though, it's more about sustained damage, efficient target switching and staying alive and good raid leaders will notice this- I prefer to be high up on the overall damage rather than DPS.
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Old October 06, 2009, 12:13 PM   #23 (permalink)

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Justefied
80 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Talent Spec: 9/51/11
Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

Hi all you WL experts

I have read a lot and followed the advice given - but I'm desperet when it comes to my DPS out put.

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And I ofc go for the rutine for Destro WL's bufs and cast's.... On a dummy I can maybe go up to 2.6 - 7 with self buffs - in Inst. as raids I'm at 3.5.

I see so many other Lock claiming they can do 5 - 7 DPS - with the same stats as me - So I really need som sucheastions on how to improve?

thx so mush and yours sincierly

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Old October 06, 2009, 12:28 PM   #24 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
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3.2 Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

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I have read a lot and followed the advice given
I'm not trying to be offensive, but if you have been reading the Warlocks Den, then you have not been comprehending much.
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Old October 06, 2009, 01:04 PM   #25 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

3.2 Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

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I'm not trying to be offensive, but if you have been reading the Warlocks Den, then you have not been comprehending much.
Sometimes I really like your answers :D
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Old October 06, 2009, 01:35 PM   #26 (permalink)

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80 Human Warlock
Shadowsong Euro PvE
Talent Spec: 9/51/11
Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

Dear Evic

Maybe not? But could you then be kind enough to let me know what I have missed?

I need advice, not rudeness.

Kind regards

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Old October 06, 2009, 01:46 PM   #27 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
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Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

I wasn't being rude actually. You claim to have read/studied the mechanics of building a Warlock, yet every gem you have is incorrect. The stickies are good for the basics.
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Old October 07, 2009, 05:25 AM   #28 (permalink)

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80 Undead Warlock
Twilight's Hammer Euro PvP
Guild: Depraved

3.2 Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

Hi!
I have problem whit my DPS coz i think my gear is pretty good not great but still
I have like 2.5k - 3,4k dps at raids so i think there is something wrong.
My rotation is CoE -> Immolate -> Chaos Bolt -> Conflagrate -> incinerate -> repeat
Any suggestions?
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Old October 07, 2009, 11:13 AM   #29 (permalink)

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gorgonash US PvP
Guild: Knights of Avalon
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Talent Spec: 0/41/30
3.2 Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

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Currently, I'm having trouble getting over 4k on the H Training Dummy.
First, I will say that I do not do much over 4k on the dummy. But, I have done 10,6k against hodir and 9.9k on the twins in toc a couple days back.

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I say that to, hopefully, add some credibility.

Now, I do have a couple of points (tips) that are REALLY silly but which did amazing things for me. Give them a try to see how it works for you.

First: get Spell Priority. That will tell you what to cast and when. It helps a lot for destro.

Second: mash the button. /waits for the laughter to die down What ever the icon is that SP shows you to cast, keep hitting that button constantly. As silly as this sounds, there is a point. The interface does not really tell you precisely when you can cast the next spell. By mashing fast, the software will cast as soon as it is able. I have noticed in some fights that the interface is as much as two casts behind in showing me what is going on. The 9.9k fight linked above was done in the midst of horrific lag. I simply did not pay attention to the lag. I just had SP tell me which button to mash and mashed it fast. (Not maniac fast, but 6-8 times per second.)

As n00bish as this may sound, it has made an immense difference to me. I hope that it aids you as well. GL!
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Old October 07, 2009, 12:08 PM   #30 (permalink)

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Jenerena
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Executus Euro PvP
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3.2 Re: Low DPS is driving me crazy

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First, I will say that I do not do much over 4k on the dummy. But, I have done 10,6k against hodir and 9.9k on the twins in toc a couple days back.

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Second: mash the button. /waits for the laughter to die down What ever the icon is that SP shows you to cast, keep hitting that button constantly. As silly as this sounds, there is a point. The interface does not really tell you precisely when you can cast the next spell. By mashing fast, the software will cast as soon as it is able. I have noticed in some fights that the interface is as much as two casts behind in showing me what is going on. The 9.9k fight linked above was done in the midst of horrific lag. I simply did not pay attention to the lag. I just had SP tell me which button to mash and mashed it fast. (Not maniac fast, but 6-8 times per second.)
I will second this. Lag and other things can make it all a bit off balance so as long as you are mashing that button, you will almost always get the next cast off as soon as the game lets you. Don't wait until the cast reaches the end, i like Quartz for this. Wait for the red bar then mash away!

Mashing=nukage!
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