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Old October 17, 2009, 01:19 PM   #11 (permalink)

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Nnoitra
80 Human Warlock
Turalyon Euro PvE
Guild: Ressurection
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 3/13/55
3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

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Originally Posted by mf- View Post
Hi guys,

Hopefully this is the right place.
I'm trying to figure out what i'm doing wrong, with fel armour I have around 2400sp
my current rotation is lifetap(rank1 with glyph) COE immo chaos bolt conflag incin x3 and rotate, throwing in dots .etc if required.

I was also recently using a lifetap Curse of Agony corr immo chaos bolt conflag incin x3 rotation without reasonable results.

The most dps I've ever been able to do was 3.8k but on average i struggle to hit 3k.
I must be seriously doing something wrong can you guys please take a look at my gear as well and see if something's wrong with either my rotation or the gear
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Cheers

IMO

I checked your armory and i saw a few things i don't agree with.
Your meta gem on the head is wrong; The gem on your shoulders ain't right also.
On the chest you should switch one of the +23sp for the +12sp+10haste and get the +7sp bonus. Err.. Your current trinkets share the cd (?!?!)

Check my armory to get some ideas about the gems :
The World of Warcraft Armory

Don't ever gem intelect.. no need.. As for the trinket go farm ToC normal for Abyssal Rune. Way better then sundial of exiled as.. haste > crit .
Improve your haste it's 2 low.


About the Rotation:
Go to the dummy.. And do:

CoD, Immolate, CB, Conflag, Inc
Conflag and CB on every cd.

Hope it helps

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Old October 17, 2009, 02:26 PM   #12 (permalink)

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Jenerena
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Executus Euro PvP
Guild: Deliverance
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

To be honest judging by your stats 3k doesn't sound too bad.. I think you could maybe do a bit more though, perhaps as deep destro.

I would just take a close look at all the little things. There is a very good thread about boosting your dps with little tricks etc. Not got time to dig it out but if you search 'tips that significantly increase your dps' or something like that you will find the thread (or someone else link it, would be great). You have been given some good advice too. Take note of it.
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Old October 17, 2009, 11:59 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Turah
80 Human Warlock
frostmourne US PvP
Guild: serenity-ex
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

I checked your armory and i saw a few things i don't agree with.
Your meta gem on the head is wrong; The gem on your shoulders ain't right also.
On the chest you should switch one of the +23sp for the +12sp+10haste and get the +7sp bonus. Err.. Your current trinkets share the cd (?!?!)

Check my armory to get some ideas about the gems :
The World of Warcraft Armory

Don't ever gem intelect.. no need.. As for the trinket go farm ToC normal for Abyssal Rune. Way better then sundial of exiled as.. haste > crit .
Improve your haste it's 2 low.


About the Rotation:
Go to the dummy.. And do:

CoD, Immolate, CB, Conflag, Inc
Conflag and CB on every cd.


Ok, i'll check out the meta gem tonight.
I have a few haste items that I'll swap out for my crit ones and see if that fixes it.
I only gemmed intellect so my meta would work but I guess that's about to change if I change my meta.
No the trinkets don't share a cd I have had them both proc together a large number of times.
I have the abyssal rune so I'll stack some haste tonight and see what can be improved, i'll also give the rotation a go and post the results..
Last night on the training dummy I managed to get a burst of 3.6k but it was fairly brief. but it sat at around an average of 2.4-2.6.. If i could constantly hit 3k i wouldn't mind so much
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Old October 18, 2009, 12:03 AM   #14 (permalink)

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Venthorsnipe
80 Human Warlock
Thunderlord US PvP
Guild: Ka Tet Corp
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/14/57
3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

You really out gear me, yet i do about 3.5k dps. I think the problems w/ your rotation. Throw in some dots? doesnt sound good since your running a destro build. Drop that lifetap glyph too, i dont think anyone running that build uses that glyph, i might be wrong. Also try using curse of doom if theres a boomkin or undead DK using their magic damage buffs.

my rotation is pretty much keeping immo. up, spam incinerate, and cast conflag and CB when they're of CD

hope it helps


BTW, if your looking at my armory, i know i need to re-gem

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Old October 18, 2009, 12:26 AM   #15 (permalink)

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80 Undead Warlock
maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

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BTW, if your looking at my armory
Dude, no offense, but your are so far out in left feild that you should study the basics and save that advise.
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Old October 18, 2009, 03:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Turah
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frostmourne US PvP
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Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Re: Help, low dps thread

uh, how do you do 3.5k dps with 66 hit rating?
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Old October 18, 2009, 02:43 PM   #17 (permalink)

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Meankeb
80 Human Warlock
Khaz Modan US PvE
Guild: Virtue
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

Just going off of single class buff DPS ranking with your CoE, MaxDPS.com has you at 2933. From your input that sounds pretty close. Input full raid buffs, and it turns out 3577.

MaxDPS.com - Destruction Warlock DPS Gear Rankings

The site is in no way perfect, but I use it for percentage increase comparisson. I normally find it to be about 1000 DPS below my actual performance. If that's a comparison, your gear would match out to somewhere in the 4-4.5K range in a Patchwerk style fight.

Just to second (third?) the gem socket advice:

Chaotic Skyflare Diamond meta (+21 crit / +3% crit damage)

Reckless Ametrine (+12 SP / +10 haste) in yellow slot of Conquerer's chest - You lose 4 SP, but gain 10 haste. If any socket bonus is +7 SP or higher, that is the only time you should socket anything but Runed Cardinal (which needs to go in your shoulders)

Purified Dreadstone ( +12 SP / +10 Spi) in your Heroe's Plagueheart Leggings. You're hosed here. You're lucky that you got a blue socket in your weapon, but you've got to sack a socket bonus somewhere (buy putting it in a yellow) or lose a red - you're kind of out of luck. I'd put it in the legs just because it would go over the top of the blue-level gem red that's there. Hope that you get a drop with a blue socket, so you can put a red back in here.

If you're running with a Boomkin or Unholy Dk, always use your CoD instead of CoE, because they have abilities in their damage rotation that overwrite your CoE anyway.

Good luck.
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Old October 19, 2009, 01:09 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Turah
80 Human Warlock
frostmourne US PvP
Guild: serenity-ex
Talent Spec: 0/40/31
Re: Help, low dps thread

even if i stack a bunch of haste I can only average around 2500, 3000 if i really push it hard..
just doesn't seem right and i've taken all the advise you guys have suggested(besides gemming at this stage)
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Old November 05, 2009, 10:26 PM   #19 (permalink)

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Westaull
80 Blood Elf Warlock
Bladefist US PvE
Guild: DiaDeLosMuertos
Talent Spec: 3/15/53
3.2 Re: Help, low dps thread

seems like he was putting too much emphasis on haste rather than hit
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Old November 07, 2009, 06:03 AM   #20 (permalink)

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Yachirù
80 Gnome Warlock
nagrand Euro PvE
Guild: Ajda
Talent Spec: 3/14/54
Re: Help, low dps thread

Mhm i kinda have a similar problem. But in my case i think i have my stats all wrong. i can get up to 4.8k on a normal heroic boss

my rotation starts with CoD, then Imm, CB, Conflag, Inc (spam until imm and cb are off cd)

i could use some advice on my gear stats and what i do or should not do with it.

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