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Old October 23, 2009, 07:25 PM   #1 (permalink)

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Kortia
80 Human Warlock
Hellscream US PvE
Guild: Ancient Hysteria
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 help with dps dont know what i am missing

Ok, here is my gear: Profiler - Wowhead which isnt bad or anything. I am spec' 0/13/58 . And the rot i use is CoE/CoD (depending on the situation in raids) Immo-Conflag-CB-Innicerate (spam) until Conflag, CB and Immolate need refreshed.

Yet i cant seem to close the gap in dps on our guilds regular raids. Our best lock does 6k dps easily and i hardly do 4k. Yet at dummies with self buff , flask , food and firestone i do like 4800 to 4900 when it peaks.

I am over hit capped because there is no way to drop the extra hit until i get better or different gear. Maybe i am neglecting something somewhere.

I just don't know anymore. Its frustrating the hell out of me. And its gotten to the point that i am second guessing my performance in raids, which in turn makes the raidleader mad at me, and make me feel worse. Anyhow some help would be appreciated sorry for the small vent.

Kortia
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Old October 23, 2009, 08:55 PM   #2 (permalink)

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Evictoray
80 Undead Warlock
maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

Your haste is extremely low, you have sacrificed haste for crit, and as such have gimped yourself.
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Old October 23, 2009, 09:48 PM   #3 (permalink)

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Kortia
80 Human Warlock
Hellscream US PvE
Guild: Ancient Hysteria
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

ok so change gems around for haste , how low should i bring crit down or how much should bring haste up?

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Old October 23, 2009, 09:56 PM   #4 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

Your stat priorites are as follows .....

1 hit till capped
2 spell power
3 haste
4 spirit
5 crit
6 intellect

Never gem for crit ot intellect and only gem for haste or spirit if you get a spell power socket bonus, and only then with a hybrid spell power/haste, spell power/spirit gem.

How mush haste? Heck stack 600-700 if you can, just let crit fall where ever it does, it's pretty invaluable as gems and enchants go.
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Old October 23, 2009, 10:15 PM   #5 (permalink)

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Kortia
80 Human Warlock
Hellscream US PvE
Guild: Ancient Hysteria
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

wow thanks ill do that just now and change all gems to haste/sp or spirit/sp. can i have the meta gem of the helm the same or should i change that too.

- Kortia
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Old October 23, 2009, 11:07 PM   #6 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

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wow thanks ill do that just now and change all gems to haste/sp or spirit/sp. can i have the meta gem of the helm the same or should i change that too.

- Kortia
whoaaaa lil doggy ............ you want to gem for pure spell power, UNLESS you have a socket bonus of +5 spell power and +7 spell power to be safe. Only then do you use a hybrid gem.

Your meta is fine.
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Old October 24, 2009, 12:26 AM   #7 (permalink)

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Kortia
80 Human Warlock
Hellscream US PvE
Guild: Ancient Hysteria
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
3.2 Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

darn i made it worse than it was :(

would it be cool if you could go at this with me step by step. The gems i mean .

I guess i can go back to 23 crit and 3% crit chance meta gem then .

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whoaaaa lil doggy ............ you want to gem for pure spell power, UNLESS you have a socket bonus of +5 spell power and +7 spell power to be safe. Only then do you use a hybrid gem.

Your meta is fine.

Ok this is going to be a bit hard to figure out then , most of my gear except the helm which has critical bonus , everything else that has gems has spell power bonus.

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Old October 24, 2009, 08:13 AM   #8 (permalink)

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lilsteele
80 Human Warlock
Terenas Euro PvE

Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

my god, so much half useful help.

If someone can do 5k dps on the target dummy and then only 4k dps in raids, the problem clearly doesn't lie in some gems. So it's totally useless to tell him he has too much crit, something he probably can't change that fast anyways.

You have to work on your raid performance. Don't run all over the place all the time, only move when you have to, focus on executing your rotation. Use some raid analysis tools, recount/skada, combatlog replay tools (worldoflogs, wowmeteronline). If you want you can link some reports and we have a look at them


Your gear is not the problem

btw, if you want to get haste really easily, go farm ToC 5 man normal until you get the abyssal rune, and replace the crit trinklet with it.
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Old October 24, 2009, 12:58 PM   #9 (permalink)

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maiev US PvP
Profile: Blizzard Armory

3.2 Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

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my god, so much half useful help.

If someone can do 5k dps on the target dummy and then only 4k dps in raids, the problem clearly doesn't lie in some gems. So it's totally useless to tell him he has too much crit, something he probably can't change that fast anyways.
He said it "peaks" at 4800/4900, hell mine "peaks" at 10k on a dummy, which has nothing to do with averaged dps. Also, you didn't see his gems before he started changing them.




Kortia,

Once you are hit capped, these are the only 3 gems you'll ever use, wowhead was down last night or I would have already linked these .......

Runed Cardinal Ruby - Item - World of Warcraft in color any socket with a crit, stamina, intellect, haste or spirit socket bonus

Reckless Ametrine - Item - World of Warcraft in a yellow socket with a +7 (+5 possibly) spell power socket bonus

Purified Dreadstone - Item - World of Warcraft in a blue socket with a +7 (+5 possibly) spell power socket bonus
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Old October 25, 2009, 07:52 PM   #10 (permalink)

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Kortia
80 Human Warlock
Hellscream US PvE
Guild: Ancient Hysteria
Profile: Blizzard Armory
Talent Spec: 0/13/58
Re: help with dps dont know what i am missing

Well i change the gems again per your advice Evictoray, bought some potions of wild magic to use in raids besides the flask of the frost wyrm and currently working the trinket from Toc. I am now 2800 sp self buffed, over the hit cap and 362 haste.
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